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No CS it is not a joke they have been selling sleepers on the transion cars on the trains that have running full. Mike: When i was on the the Eagle the last time you enter the train and they point you you to the car walking to it in the train. i used the shower in the regular Sleeping car as i think that was the only one on the train that had working hot water at the time Posts: 193 | From: illinois | Registered: Jan 2004
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boyishcolt: I enter the train where? The sleeper by the transition car {assuming there is one} or do I enter the lower level of the transition?
I'm thinking the only sleeper in the consist will be the SL sleeper at the end of the train. That would be a long walk to the shower, if that's accurate.
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Hmmm maybe I'll meet you in St. Louey. If I'm not busy we could meet. Tell me what you think about the contruction on an actual temporary station here in STL. The real thing will be done in 2006 hopefully.
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there is is showers in the transition car either the crew did not want us to use them or it was really broken crews really do not like there car used bye passengers
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I'm going up to Joliet on Friday and returning on Monday. I have an appointment to shoot Bill Shatner at the CPX paintball field on Sunday {It's his annual charity paintball game for his "up with horses" charity}.
Uncle Buck, I'll be there Saturday morning if those overpasses St Louis has to the south of the station don't collapse on top of us. Have you ever seen the damage on several of the overpasses south of the station? Huge chunks of concrete missing and rebar hanging off of the structural members of the overpasses.... Kinda scary.
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There are two showers on the transistion sleeper For passengers. One upstairs at the end of the public part of the car, and one downstairs. The staff have a shower in the middle of the car, and do not let passengers use it. I was on the eagle from Ft worth to Chicago on the 10th of August and returned on the 14th in the transition car. It is actually closer to the diner than the full sleeper, so that makes it nice.
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What does this car look like...There was a sign there went I went on the starlgiht that said, "Cew only" is this the slumber sleeper thing? I have never seen this listed as an Accom. on Aamtrak.
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i maybe on that train tommorow Mike going to CHI if i am on it i will be in the Cafe car shortley after the Springfield stop (green Polo hat)
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I'll still be in Texas tomorrow. I'll be passing through Springfield on Saturday around lunchtime.
And thanks for the info fixj!
Uncle Buck, I'll be near the transition sleeper and probably wearing Wrangler shorts and a dark polo shirt, with gray sneakers. Have a sign praising Texas and I'll find you.
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quote:Originally posted by CoastStarlight99: What does this car look like...There was a sign there went I went on the starlgiht that said, "Cew only" is this the slumber sleeper thing? I have never seen this listed as an Accom. on Aamtrak.
Anton, what they're referring to is the Transition Sleeper between the frontmost passenger car and the baggage car. They were originally intended to have both revenue space (in the form of standard bedrooms) and crew dorms. However, until recently, they have been used exclusively as crew dorms. Amtrak has opened up Transition Sleepers to customers on the Eagle and, I think, one other route recently. I expect it will be done on more routes before too long. It helps with the sleeping car shortage problem.
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Well, the transition sleeper wasn't bad at all. We had our attendant, free juice and coffee and ice, and two baths with showers upstairs and two standard baths and a standard shower downstairs.
I didn't like the commode/shower combo for the usual reasons (Rocking train, and guys with little "control") and the mess on the floor. Other than that, it was a different experience, especially with the diner immediately behind us.
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did you see Uncle Buck? Some reason i thought you were going to on the train Friday but i see you were on Saturday. was train on time? and was it sold out? Posts: 193 | From: illinois | Registered: Jan 2004
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Mike, am I to understand that the upstairs toilets have showers in them like the Deluxe rooms? Is it sort of a combination of a standard Superliner toilet with a Deluxe bedroom shower arrangement?
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1st, No I didn't see Uncle Buck, but I did look for him. 2nd, Mr. Toy, combine the standard shower and a standard bathroom. Instead of having the undressing area, you had the commode part of the combo. 3rd, I'm WAY too tired to post now but I WAS IN 32016!!!!!!! And we took the northern route from Texarkana and Mineola!
The refurb is AWESOME!!!!! More later.
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quote:Originally posted by mikesmith: ...2nd, Mr. Toy, combine the standard shower and a standard bathroom. Instead of having the undressing area, you had the commode part of the combo.
I get the picture, but there seems to be a definite "Eeew" factor here. Definitely wear flip-flops when getting in and out of that shower.
quote:3rd, I'm WAY too tired to post now but I WAS IN 32016!!!!!!! .... The refurb is AWESOME!!!!!
I want to know MORE!!!! Especially about the rest rooms, do the faucet's splatter? Is there space to turn around? Is the TP holder still behind you? Tell me, please! I'll even consider voting for a Republican (at the state level) if you just tell us more!!!
I have pictures!!!!!! And will post some later today. The faucet doesn't splatter. You push the handle down and a stream of water flows out of the low-flow areator into the deep-dish sink. You can easily turn around in the space provided (Think RV style bath with the commode in a corner at a 45 degree angle). The TP holder is in front and to the left of where you are sitting, a very slight stretch to get to it.
I have pictures of all of this!(including the transition combo) I'll start posting after work (or maybe during work if I get a break)!
And I won't even hold you to your "Republican" promise, Mr Toy. I realize it was made under duress.
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Well, I had intended to post some pictures. Unfortunately, Trainweb has a problem with that part of their site. When it is corrected, I'll post several pictures. In the meantime, here's the captions that go with the pictures I wanted to post:
The toilet seat is a full version, just like the one in your bath, so you can get some size comparisons.
The sink faucet is the "push down on the hot or cold water button" style. It runs for about 20 seconds, which is plenty of time, and has a low-flow areator.
Now, let's see if this edit works....
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If you notice the wood paneling beside the toilet and the wood paneling below the sink, they are the same wood paneling, so you will have a perspective on the toilet/sink combo.
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Thank you, Mike. Looks like there's more than twice as much floor space, and a full sized toilet seat, too! That high-rise faucet arrangement is also clearly superior. Tell your fellow Republicans in Washington to get Amtrak enough money for '05 so more cars can be upgraded. (I've tried....)
I was hoping one of us would be lucky enough to travel in that car, but I didn't think it would happen so soon! Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
------------------ Sing to the tune of Humoresque: Passengers will please refrain, From flushing toilets while the train, Is standing in the station, I love you.
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Mr Toy: I have written a "Congratulations!" letter to Beech Grove, and Ccing Gunn, President Bush, Senator Hutchison, Senator Cornyn, and Rep Brady.
The congress critters also get a cover letter, requesting $50 million a year for Beech Grove renovations and tack it on to the very next appropriations bill. I stated that if we could spend $100 million studying a turtle, we should be able to spend a little money to upgrade our National passenger rail system at 1/3 the cost of a new Superliner.
Also, I plan on posting more pictures this weekend. I'll label the thread "32016". Look for it.
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I want to know MORE!!!! Especially about the rest rooms, do the faucet's splatter? Is there space to turn around? Is the TP holder still behind you? Tell me, please! I'll even consider voting for a Republican (at the state level) if you just tell us more!!! 
