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JWB7400
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They were a much prettier engine,why aren't they used today?
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I've never heard of covered wagons, at least as a train term. What are they?

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I think the covered wagons refer to E & F series diesel units which ran on all railroads up until the mid-70's/early 80's.
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Let's start with the Blinding Flash of the Obvious answer: These units are obsolete. The E-9s Union Pacific and the F units BNSF use for executive service have been rebuilt. They have -2 or better electrical systems, and in the case of the UP E units, they are re-engined with the 645 series Diesel.

The secondary answer, especially compared with modern hood or hood/safety cab construction, is that they are expensive to build. Streamlined Diesel units of this era used a form of truss construction where the skin and frame gave to the strenghth of the carbody. Modern units, including all hoods as well the FP45, the SDP40F, and the F40, rely on the frame for strength, the engine compartment and crew space is all weather shelter.

Finally, in the case certainly of EMD's E units, their wheel arrangement is A1A-A1A, meaning powered-idler-powered on each truck, vice C-C (3 axles, all powered) or B-B (2 axles, all powered). They have somewhat reduced starting tractive effort.

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I also wish they made passenger engines look better They could be modern inside and beautiful outside.

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Amtrak's Genesis units are nice looking!
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quote:
Originally posted by Eric:
Amtrak's Genesis units are nice looking!

Agreed. They are the modern version of the streamlined locomotive.

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