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manypims
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On Saturday morning, Capitol Limited 29 is 3:15 behind schedule leaving Toledo due to a freight accident East of Sandusky, Ohio. I was told by my car attendant that a Norfolk Southern train hit a vehicle at a crossing and there was a fatality.

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May I ask, Mr. Pims, that when identifying a specific train, include in parentheses the date it originated. That is official Amtrak nomenclature for identifying a train on the system.

I THINK you are addressing the WB Capitol Limited #29 that you have been riding, presumably with some kind of wireless device in your possession, that originated Wash on Friday August 25. That train is identified in Amtrak records as #29(25) and will be so until it has completed its journey.

Even though you report an incident that occurred Saturday Aug 26, the train involved remains #29 (25).

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Learning from the above, does anyone know what has happened to the Sunset Limited #1(25)? It just shows a service disruption, was to have left NOL on the 25th at 11:55 am. Is it possible that it never left? I'm getting nervous again about my upcoming trip.

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My apologies, Mr. Norman, I did not know the proper Amtrak nomenclature. I will use 29 (25) in the future so as not to offend veteran posters.

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Miss Vicki--

You stumbled into the one anomaly in the Amtrak train numbering system, as the train scheduled to depart New Orleans Friday August 25 actually is #1(24) - or the date that it made its "phantom" departure from Orlando.

However, when "the public' accesses Train Status at the website, one will enter the station and the date of service at such.

But I agree; the WB Sunset scheduled to make stops from San Antonio to Tucson on Sat Aug 26, is presently showing the dreaded "Service Interruption' notice at Train Status.

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I like the phantom designation, rather romantic. However, I still want to know what has happened to the train. Anyone know?

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Night-time sharpens,
heightens each sensation . . .
Darkness stirs and
wakes imagination . . .
Silently the senses
abandon their defences . . .
Slowly, gently
night unfurls its splendour . . .
Grasp it, sense it -
tremulous and tender . . .
Turn your face away
from the garish light of day,
turn your thoughts away
from cold, unfeeling light -
and listen to
the music of the night


Likely, Miss Vicki, HE knws better the whereabouts of (edited) #1(24) than anyone at an Amtrak call-center, who nowadays may be in Bangalore, India

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Where are the railroad wonks with the radios? Someone out there can find this train (#1, not #19 Gilbert). Or does this mean, if the call-center was called, the answer was "God only knows?"
Is the call-center really off shore?
You know I believe everything you say Gilbert!

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I'm reminded of asking 'Julie' for train status when she says "Hold on, I'll see if I can find your train."

Of course with a 'service disruption' not even Julie can find your train. You have to wait for a live agent!

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So does that mean #22(23) is the same train as #422(25) once north/east of San Antonio?

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Wonders never cease, Miss Vicki and others interested.

As of a few moments ago, #1(24) is being reported by Train Status approximately eight hours late.

Regarding USARAIL call centers, Amtrak has reached agreement with the employees union to initate "outsourcing' (the phrase long used in the railroad industry is "contracting out') of call center activities. Can't be sure where the last "cable guy' you had occasion to call was located, but I think I know where the last one I talked to was.

Secondly Mr Geoff M, the Chi-LA cars connected to the Sunset #1(24) are identified in Amtrak'informaton systems as #421(24). Those cars were scheduled to depart Chi Thursday Aug 24 combined with Texas Eagle #21(24). They were scheduled to arrived San Antonio late evening Friday Aug 25, thence switched to #1(24) early Sat AM Aug 26.

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I see Amtrak does indeed have info about the #1(24)now and it again got into Houston, where I plan to pick it up, 6 hours late at 3:00 am. Won't we have fun sitting in the Houston station from 8:15 pm when the bus from Galveston drops us off until the wee hours of the night?
Gilbert, I see that you had to educate another on the use of the phantom start date on the other forum. Notice that you are not safe from my observation at any location so you must continue to provide your usual high standard of information at all times.
Thanks for the follow up on my question today.

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Vicki in usually sunny Southern California

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Um, thanks, Mr. Norman, but I was actually referring to the train in the *opposite* direction (hence 22 and not 21). The oddity here is that one set of cars originated two days earlier than the rest of the cars once combined at San Antonio, hence same train, different dates.

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To clarify, Mr. GeoffM, and using Eastward trains as you set forth, train #422 in Amtrak records is a LA to Chicago train that originates same day as does train #2. Therefore, 422's date of origin will conform with that of #2 and not that of #22 operating from San Antonio to Chicago.

As example, the EB Sunset departing LA today is #2(27), as is the Eagle #422(27). While the Sunset will continue to its "temporary" destination of New Orleans with same designation throughout, at San Antonio #422(27) will be combined Tuesday morning with #22(29).

Oh well, I guess this description is starting to read like a script from the movie "Catch 22".

Incidentially it appears the Sunset's "reputation' has caught up with it of late regarding bookings. In the course of preparing this posting, I was reviewing the website and noted that there are all styles of Sleeper accomodations available for today's departure, i.e. #2(27) and #422(27), and at what I would consider "giveaway' rates (note: I do not consider it wise to quote specific Amtrak fares at a railforum. In fact I prohibited it during my term as Moderator of such elsewhere).

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