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Hi guys,why does the Cardinal take 4 hours to get from indy to chicago when the bus takes 2 hours? Just curious. I'm looking forward to a trip on the CZ in June but have to get from Noblesville to Indi to Chicago. Anyone living in or near Indianapolis know how to get from Noblesville to Indianapolis? Thanks.
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I can sum it up in one sentence: the track conditions between CUS and Indy.
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Cardinal 5hrs bus 3hrs vice 4 and 2; Lest we not forget the time zone difference.
Noblesville to Downtown?, probably drive. Indianapolis is a great city; I always look forward to my occasions visiting there. But mass transportation is not too high on the "to do" list.
Finally, I plan on traveling to Indianapolis (Carmel) to visit with friends this Saturday. I think my route will be I-57 to Manteno, then over "byways" to I-65 for which only the Sat/Nav in my auto knows the way.
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Cincinnati to Indianpolis (and vice versa) is also 3 1/2 hours via the Cardinal, and about 2 hours by car -- same reason.
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Not so much track conditions but the circuitous route through Chicago into Union Station. The Cardinal must cross over virtually every other freight route leaving the city going southward or southeasterly and it is subject to being held for a freight train at any of what seems like two dozen junctions.
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notelvis, You certainly nailed it. Having spent a few years on 51/50, there is a black hole between Chi. and Dyer. All going well it's 30-40 min. Not going well? 2-3 hours...
Crossing the GT and the UP were the worst. The Cdr. would try and call the dispatcher to see how long and if the Disp. wasn't ready for us, they wouldn't answer the radio or the phone!
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I may drive home today via IN US421 to I-80. This route X's every historical E-W route from Chicago, including the abandoned ERIE at Wilders. Also, it parallels the CI&L (CSX) "route of the Cardinal" from Lafayette to Monon.
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Mr. Sutton, possibly I'm jaded insomuch as I have long standing friends of 25 years residing there, and even if we four went through about $600 at the Ruth's Chris (half was wines; I think most all here know "I love that stuff"), it is a wonderful city. A walk through the Veterans Plaza (Meridian St) and seeing the young couples enjoying horse drawn carriages,. and given the success of their various sports franchises, lets anyone know that "Indianoplace" is an absolute misnomer.
OK, when it comes to the Symphony, I know I'm "spoiled', but the Indianapolis Symphony Orcheastra is an ensemble not to be "sniffed at".
I love that place (even if I drive down there).
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Hi Mr. Norman, nothing wrong with a little wine
Actually, we may be settling there. I have only one friend there right now, in Noblesville, which looks like a pleasant place. I hear there's a good state park right IN or near Indianapolis. True? Any kind of oldtown? --you know, the kind of place with cafes, restaurants? Thanks!
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One place I would have loved to visit if I'd had a car while in Indianapolis is Columbus, IN, a small city famous for architecture by modern giants. I hear it is really something to see. There is no public transportation to get there, although there are occasional bus tours out of Indianapolist. The website for the Convention & Visitors Bureau is http://www.columbus.in.us/Posts: 2642 | From: upstate New York | Registered: Mar 2004
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Mr. Sutton, that would likely be the Broad Ripple area, which is centered roundly @ 55th and College. Young people starting out seem to gravitate to this diverse community.
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