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I was wondering if one can get Free WiFi on the Amtrak San Joaqins as well as going through towns with free public Wifi? I know that at schools you can use their WiFi as well at some cafes and other areas.

On The SW Chief from LA to Albuquerque is there any WIFI signals that you can pick up at the speed the train is going? Has Amtrak looked to provide WiFi like the airlines have done. Even if I have to pay $10 for the ride it is worth the cost.

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There's at least one company (www.waav.com) that would love to be able to provide you with that service. They've had some success with the MBTA in Boston, providing WiFi on commuter trains. Point me in the right direction at Amtrak, maybe we can get it done!
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The Capitol Corridor experimented with WiFi in a few cars, but it never panned out.

If Amtrak were to get WiFi, it would HAVE TO BE dummy proof. There is no way in heck that WiFi can be placed into the hands of on-board Amtrak employees----no way at all. The system would have to be locked and bolted down, and it must have some sort of contraption to remotely repair issues from a central location (a non Amtrak location). I'm assuming something like this is available? I am absolutely certain that something like this placed into the hands of Amtrak would become an instant disaster.

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Even at a gentle roll on Amtrak, you're extremely unlikely to be able to lock on to a WiFi signal long enough to be of any use unless stopped for a decent duration. Add to that any trees, buildings, hills, and metal train walls that are in the way and that'll weaken the signal further. You might want to look up Wardriving, though I guess in this context it could be Warrailroading.

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Geoff---I don't know if the train's movement is an issue any longer (from a technology standpoint). When they ran the test on the Capitol Corridor, it worked very well on the double-decker California Cars. The problem was Amtrak (as usual).

Maybe someone else can confirm this, but I think there is WiFi on commuter trains back east in addition to MBTA?

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Smitty, when you get WiFi on trains it's usually a WiFi broadcast system actually on board the train (at least the ones I've seen); I was referring to trying to lock on to a fixed WiFi zone in residences, workplaces, schools etc beside the track. How the train's WiFi communicates with the outside world is not within my knowledge...

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Okay--I get it now. [Smile]

Before I purchased my wireless card for my Mac, I would try to pick up free WiFi signals when the train was stopped somewhere. I was successful on a few occasions (such as the station stop at Martinez, CA)---but other than getting lucky a few times, it's almost impossible to do.

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Geoff, Smitty:

Mobile WiFi basically is an aircard from a wireless provider hooked to a WiFi brodcast system inside the train. WAAv (see above) uses 2 cards from different providers and a router to provide uninterrupted service. There aren't any moving parts, so it's a mystery to me how an Amtrak employee could foul it up. If you can get cell phone service you can get WiFi service. Not too good on the SW Chief second night out in SE Colorado, though.

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TravelPlus,

You can show your support for WiFi onboard Amtrak trains by hitting "I like this idea" at http://getsatisfaction.com/amtrak/topics/wifi

I hope this site catches on for rail advocates - it's an easy way to get all of our ideas listed all together - and it even ranks them by the most popular ones. I have been in contact with a representative from Amtrak and they are working on getting someone to monitor the site.

Jarrod

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FYI,

I've been using a broadband card on my laptop. After much research, I decided on Millenicom.com for my service. Month to month, with no FAP in effect for now. I'm using Verizon towers with a speed of between 1.2 and 1.7 MB down and 200 to 700KB up.

TBlack's explanation above is right on.

Good luck.

Joe

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