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I just came on line to post about this but see you beat me to it. Shades of The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (the original is best).
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Prosecutors in Sweden have announced that the incident is now being treated as a bizarre accident. The woman, who is still seriously ill in hospital, is not suspected of having committed any offence and is no longer under arrest.
MODERATOR - could you please change thread title to "Woman didn't steal train and crash it into a house"
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(The earlier link was broken. The above is a new one and should work.)
Maybe she bumped the throttle, which perhaps was not stowed, locked or otherwise disabled by the engineer.
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Nice cover-up. Oh wait, it isn't some complicated chance incident that would be difficult to accomplish. The cleaning lady bumped a control and drove into a house.
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Interesting. Why do you think there is a cover-up?
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British drivers have their own master key which they carry with them at all times when on driving duties. Leaving your keys in the reverser is akin to leaving your keys in your front door of your house, albeit with more serious ramifications. The "key" is not much more than a particular sized block though - not exactly hard to reproduce but stops accidents like knocking the controls.
Though I did work on Norwegian railways (combined driver and signaling simulation), the question of a master key never came up, at least in respect of the work I was doing. Norway and Sweden are very similar in rail terms.
-------------------- Geoff M. Posts: 2426 | From: Apple Valley, CA | Registered: Sep 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Henry Kisor: Interesting. Why do you think there is a cover-up?
Accidentally remove the brake, then accidentally switch from neutral to forward, accidentally move from idle to notch one and then if there is one, accidentally step on the dead mans throttle.
Three or four distinct separate steps, a distance apart, not just bumping a lever.
That's why.
I'll accept that a cleaning lady had access and could have had a cab key. It wasn't a break in.
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quote:Originally posted by Henry Kisor: Interesting. Why do you think there is a cover-up?
Accidentally remove the brake, then accidentally switch from neutral to forward, accidentally move from idle to notch one and then if there is one, accidentally step on the dead mans throttle.
Three or four distinct separate steps, a distance apart, not just bumping a lever.
That's why.
I'll accept that a cleaning lady had access and could have had a cab key. It wasn't a break in.
I see your point though you're assuming the train was properly parked. What if, for example, the driver had improperly stopped his train while he went for a smoke/pee, and the combined brake/throttle nudge was all that was needed? Hypothetical but then we don't know much in the way of detail.
-------------------- Geoff M. Posts: 2426 | From: Apple Valley, CA | Registered: Sep 2000
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Have you knowledge if this agency's scope includes rail accidents/incidents and have you any thoughts to what extent their investigations can be considered "thorough"?
Since there was personal injury, one would think they would have some jurisdiction in the matter.
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I can't speak directly for Sweden's investigative agency but if it's anything like the UK's then it would be involved as it involved substantial property damage (both rail and non-rail) involving a transport medium.
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