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Ocala Mike
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https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/protecting-the-protectors-preventing-and-mitigating-domestic-violent-extremism-in-the-military-veteran-and-law-enforcement-communities

Food for thought - long article.

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Captain Mike; Sir!

Thank you for locating this material and sharing it here.

I'm at a loss to understand why two career members of the Armed Forces, both through the end of '24, had un(or nearly so)blemished service records would go and commit these two apparently unrelated acts.

In the case of the Las Vegas terrorist, in which the only life lost was his own, how was he motivated?

The military vote, particularly amongst the career, was overwhelmingly for Trump. Was it a gripe against Elon for fear that he and Swamy will decide "the military is (nowadays well) paid enough; freeze 'em or even cut 'em".

In so far as New Orleans, the terrorist had at least one Middle East tour. How could have ISIS radicalized him?

They're both deceased; will we ever know?

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Perhaps the reality is that mental issues/personal problems overshadow political ideation.
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At this writing, it appears that the two incidents are unrelated.

Even if MSgt. Livelsberger chose a highly visible location for his self-inflicted demise, he meant no harm to others than himself, even though seven persons sustained minor injuries. He may well have even voted for Mr. Trump.

Now so far as Mr. Din Jabbar goes, he was simply evil incarnate and representing a terrorist group that many thought had been laid to rest. He was not suicidal, and had he escaped, he could well committed another act in an equally visible location.

Finally, I had never heard of this vehicle rental concern Turo (only one I've heard of is Hertz). Possibly you haven't either, but it appears they are "an Air B&B for cars". I wouldn't want to drive someone else's auto and I'll be darned if someone else will drive mine (well, a service technician or valet).

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quote:
Originally posted by Ocala Mike:
Perhaps the reality is that mental issues/personal problems overshadow political ideation.

No; these are very sociopolitical acts. And not just because of what is currently known about Shamsud-Din Jabbar. The fact that FBI special agent Alethea Duncan tried to deny the New Orleans tragedy was terrorism even speaks louder volumes.
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Possibly, this Journal article will provide some insight to the New Year's Day incidents:

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The two men had vastly different military careers that seemed unlikely to intersect. Army Master Sgt. Matthew Livelsberger was an elite special forces soldier who repeatedly deployed to the front lines from Africa to Afghanistan, while Army Staff Sgt. Shamsud-Din Jabbar spent years quietly supporting troops through administrative work.

Their stories overlapped in two shocking acts in the early hours of 2025, with an exploded Tesla Cybertruck in Las Vegas, in what authorities have determined was a suicide, and a terrorist attack that killed 14 in New Orleans. The two episodes have become stark reminders of one of the most persistent and vexing threats facing the U.S. military: a tragic turn toward violence within the ranks, whether from extremist radicalization or mental-health struggles.

It only makes me feel grateful that I fulfilled my military service - including a tour in Vietnam - without any physical or mental "scars".

Finally, if you haven't seen it, the movie "The Best Years Of Our Lives", I think provides excellent insight into the challenges of Citizen-Soldiers returning to civilian life. I recommend it, it you can locate it.

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