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Posted by striperjack (Member # 1636) on :
 
My wife&I take Amtrak to S.F. last 4 yrs, we take the usual tours, but next year we are thinking about trying the local commuting system, of which we know nothing. We live in Boston and have the M.B.T.A., it goes to Plymouth but the T seems to keep it a secret from tourist;s. I wonder if anyone in S.F. area could tell us about any one day comm. rail trips not well know to tourist;s. We have been to Monterey and love it,does commuter rail connect from S.F. area? Any info would be great!! Thanks Jack M
 
Posted by zephyr (Member # 1651) on :
 
Striperjack--There are several commuter rail options from San Francisco. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) and CalTrain offer commuter rail service from San Francisco to various Bay Area locations. Amtrak's San Joaquin's and Capitol Corridor's provide several options for travelling into the Central Valley.

I don't know what your interests are, but I'll throw out a couple of ideas. BART can get you from downtown SF to the Oakland Collesium if you want to catch an A's game. You can take Amtrak's Capitol Corridor to downtown Sacramento. The California Railroad Museum and Old Sacramento are an easy walk (5 minutes) from the station. As far as Monterey, Mr. Toy (who often contributes to this forum) is from that area and may be able to help you there.

I hope you and your wife have a great trip.

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Posted by Mr. Toy (Member # 311) on :
 
Service from San Francisco to Monterey is still a few years away. It is still in the planning stages, and local politics is threatening to screw the whole thing up. The city governments are basicly saying "Yes we support train service, we just don't want those pesky trains in our pristine little towns!"

Caltrain will also be extended to Salinas in 2-3 years, and that city is being much more supportive.

Currently, the only train serving Monterey County is the Coast Starlight.

In case anyone is interested in a little history, Southern Pacific ran the first train from SF to Monterey around 1880. It was known as the Del Monte Express, and is reputed to be SP's first "name train." They also built the grand Hotel Del Monte near the original station in Monterey. The hotel burned down twice (the second fire only destroyed the central section, which was rebuilt in 1926). Since WWII the hotel has been part of the Naval Postgraduate School.

Back in the 1880s, Southern Pacific decided to market Monterey as a playground for the wealthy, and Santa Cruz as a resort town for the working class. That decision has affected the culture of the two communities ever since. The Monterey Penuinsula, with the golf courses and all, is still very upper-class, while Santa Cruz, with the famous roller coaster at the beach, is predominantly middle-class.

The Del Monte Express last ran in 1971.

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Trust God, love your neighbor, and never mistake opinion for truth.
-Mr. Toy

The Del Monte Club Car

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Posted by Ken V (Member # 1466) on :
 
Mr. Toy,

Your history lesson was very interesting and informative. Is that where your website gets it's name from?

The beach boardwalk in Santa Cruz is also memorable. The roller coaster there (ex Coney Island) is the most memorable one I have ever ridden (and I've been on quite a few). It was also featured in the movie "The Sting II".
 


Posted by striperjack (Member # 1636) on :
 
Zephyr; Thank;s for the suggestion;s the Sacramento trip sounds like one we could do, I have the time to do some research and fit it into our plans. We thank you and Mr. Toy for your time and help. Jack M
 
Posted by Mr. Toy (Member # 311) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ken V:
Mr. Toy,
Your history lesson was very interesting and informative. Is that where your website gets it's name from?

Yes. But I don't know if the Del Monte Express ever had a club car. I rode it once when I was three (in 1962), and I seem to remember being in some sort of a lounge car, but that was a long time ago, and my memory is a bit fuzzy.

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Trust God, love your neighbor, and never mistake opinion for truth.
-Mr. Toy

The Del Monte Club Car
 


Posted by rresor (Member # 128) on :
 
A couple more ideas for a day trip:

1) Take a Peninsula Commute train to San Jose (1:45) from 3rd & Townsend in San Francisco. Take one of the "Capitols" from SJ to Richmond, CA. Transfer to BART (platforms are adjacent) and return to SF. And, if you have some time in SJ, ride the light rail line (a short walk from the Diridon Transportation Center, or you can transfer to light rail at Mountain View (stations are adjacent) and ride into downtown SJ.

2) Napa Valley Wine Train (if you have a car).

Have fun.
 


Posted by trainman1 (Member # 1392) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rresor:
1) Take a Peninsula Commute train to San Jose (1:45) from 3rd & Townsend in San Francisco. Take one of the "Capitols" from SJ to Richmond, CA. Transfer to BART (platforms are adjacent) and return to SF. And, if you have some time in SJ, ride the light rail line (a short walk from the Diridon Transportation Center, or you can transfer to light rail at Mountain View (stations are adjacent) and ride into downtown SJ.

Caltrain and the San Jose light rail are also adjacent at Tamien, which is the last stop for southbound non-rush-hour Caltrain trains, so that can be an option, too, if you want a little more of the Caltrain experience, or want to see a little more of San Jose. (When I was in the Bay Area in May, I took Caltrain to Tamien, then took the light rail back to Mountain View, and then took Caltrain from there back to the city. I was very surprised by how inexpensive Caltrain tickets are, even the full-fare one-way variety.)
 


Posted by MPALMER (Member # 125) on :
 
The bay area is good for those "Iron Triangle" journeys. But I didn't really like the Tamien light rail station...it is convenient, but it is in the median of a freeway and kind of noisy.
 


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