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Posted by jopedder (Member # 2187) on :
 
can anyone settle an argument for me?

My parents have a memory (30 - 40 yrs ago) of a train that would travel to the south coast of England and onto a boat, still full of passangers, cross the sea and then chug off onto the Isle of Wight. Is this true? If so how was it possible, it seems unlikely that a connection could be made in the track between the ship and the land due to the continuous movement of a boat on the surf. We thought it could be possible if the boat was dry-docked, but the amount of time that it would take to refloat the boat would make the exersise take far too long and therfore a bit pointless. Possibly the train was lifted on to the boat using a crane?

any ideas anyone?

thanks

jo
 


Posted by Kairho (Member # 1567) on :
 
Start digging in your pockets! It is very common in Europe and used to be fairly common in the US, before someone ruined the fun by inventing The Bridge.

Check out good photos and information at http://mercurio.iet.unipi.it/pix/dk/ferry/pix.html

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Posted by jopedder (Member # 2187) on :
 
thanks, you have proven my mums sanity!

but how does it work? it must be very difficult to get the track on and off shore to align, also is the engine taken onboard or just the carriage?
 


Posted by David (Member # 3) on :
 
I don't see any references in my admittedly limited book collection to a through train service between the south of England and the Isle of Wight (which, by the way, isn't exactly "across the sea." In 1991 we took a fairly short ride on a car ferry across the Solent from Southampton to Cowes.)

I wonder if the trip being remembered was the "Night Ferry" sleeping car train which ran between London and Paris until approximately 20 years ago. Although that was the last of the through trains across the English Channel there used to be other services, including day trains such as the "Golden Arrow."
 


Posted by katriner (Member # 2223) on :
 
Hi,
I can't belive that someone found pics of the old boat sailing in Denmark, DSB (Danish Rail) don't even have any (i checked bec i wanted to give you an explaination)
I have taken the trip lots of times, my gran lives in the other end of DK.
Well all what happens is that the tracks are locked in place with the dock that way the track on the boat and the track on land line up and the train can pass.
Hope that helps
Regards
Katrine
The Dane


 


Posted by PullmanCo (Member # 1138) on :
 
During my four years in Europe, I took:

Hook-Harwich boat train ... although here, the railcar was not ferried, just the passengers.

Another Continent-Britain boat train ... here we used hydrofoil

Finally, a Frankfurt-Copenhagen boat train ... here our TEN sleeper was ferried.

John

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The City of Saint Louis (UP, 1967) is still my standard for passenger operations
 


Posted by The Safety Valve (Member # 971) on :
 
Jopedder,

When I railroaded in New Zealand during the 70's, one thing I did when based for a couple of years in Wellington was switch the rail ferries that plied Cooke Strait between the North and South Islands. These vessels carried rail rollingstock, comercial and private vehicles as well as people (mostly tourists).

The ships reversed into their berths at Wellington and Picton under the control of the 1st Mate who conned the movement from a control station located at the vessel's stern. Once berthed, the stern door for rail traffic was opened and a LINK-SPAN (hinged at its shore-end) lowered to mate with the ship at rail deck level. This bridge-like assembly accommodated vertical movement of the ship relative to the shore and also permitted significant rolling movement of the ship.

The link-span had triple-gountlet track down its length, with the switch points back on shore prior to entering it. The left-hand set of tracks joined up with the port-side track on the ship. The centre tracks with the centre road on the ship, and of course, the right-hand tracks accessed the starboard side of the ship.

We would run the switch engine down the link-span and pull the centre road. This rake would be pulled back into the ferry yard and another pushed down onto the ship to replace it for the next sailing. Then the port-side would be pulled and as the rake was drawn off, the vessel would assume a pronounced list to starboard. This was overcome by the 1st Mate operating controls to pump seawater ballast from one side of the ship to the other. Of course the ship would right herself when the port-side track had a new rake pushed aboard and the ballast would have to be pumped again. The whole process recurred when the starboard-side road was 'pulled and pushed'.

Complete passenger train consists (separated into three rakes and stowed on all three roads were sometimes accommodated when a special tour train moved between the two main islands. Of course in such a case, passengers would detrain prior to the consist being loaded aboard, since the public were not allowed on the rail deck.

Hope this helps with your understanding of how this process worked, at least in New Zealand.

Regards,
 




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