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Hello, New to the list, first posting!! In 1972, on a family vacation, I had opportunity to ride the cab of ATSF F-7s powering the round trip on this train. My question is more to the car consist, however. Would anyone be able to give me any info as to the type/who's diners would've been most likely on this train?? With the arrival of the new Walthers Budd type cars, I've decided I'd like to build a model of this train, if for no more reason of sentimentals. It doesn't appear the Walthers Budd diner will be quite right, when it arrives. TIA, Dan
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I used to see San Diegans frequently in the late 1960's and early 1970's. I rode one in 1970. As far as I know, they did not have a dining car. The trip was too short to require one. I don't even remember a lounge car. Typically, the train was just coaches with a bagagge car or two on the northern end. The engines were always in the front. The baggage cars would be on the back heading southbound, and on the front heading northbound.
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The best source for San Diegan consists is "A Quartet Century Of Santa Fe Consists" by Fred Frailey.
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FWIW, I wasn't a true railfan at the time. I did, however, take two photos of the train upon arrival in San Diego. Power consisted of an ATSF set of F-7(A-B), one baggage/coach or diner of some sort, and about 6 coaches. IIRC, and it looks like it in the photos, all the cars are wearing Amtrak's Ph.1 paint. The baggage(combine?) was on the south end arriving at S.D. Is it possible the combine was from another road's fleet(SP?), considering I'm looking at early Amtrak equipment?? Dan Posts: 2 | From: Shakopee, Mn. USA | Registered: Aug 2001
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The combine very well could have come from a different railroad. My experiences described above are actually pre-Amtrak, in the days of Santa Fe. As soon as Amtrak took over they began mixing rolling stock from various railroads.
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The summer 1974 issue of Passenger Train Journal says that the typical San Diegan consist for that season was a baggage buffet-lounge and 6 to 8 coaches. Maybe the 1972 consist was the same.
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