National Corridors has a somewhat more detailed report here. http://www.nationalcorridors.org/df02032003.shtml#Next It says one will go to the SW Chief, the other to the California Zephyr.
Anybody know if these are I or II models?
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Thanks.
Geoff M.
The cars rebuilt are S-I's 32032 and 32053, both wrecked at Wendover 9-13-01. One was in consist of #5(2nd) which would mean, if all goes according to plan" that car would be in #6(5th).
For the life of me, can't figure out why Amtrak needs a Phase 6 paint scheme!
Thanks.
Geoff M.
But the best part is the fact that it is back in service. That is what is important. The cosmetics are just a matter of personal preference.
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I've always felt that scrawling "Superliner" or "Viewliner" on the cars makes them look like a cheesy thrill ride at an amusement park -- in other words, not the sort of thing that would inspire confidence in a nation that doesn't take rail travel seriously in the first place.
The understated new look is cleaner. More classic. Just like yours truly, of course.
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I've always felt that scrawling "Superliner" or "Viewliner" on the cars makes them look like a cheesy thrill ride at an amusement park -- in other words, not the sort of thing that would inspire confidence in a nation that doesn't take rail travel seriously in the first place.
Back in the 1980s, Eastern Airlines had the tails of its Boeing 757 airplanes painted with a big "757," which is the rough equivalent of the "Superliner" lettering. And then there's the Southwest Airlines plane that's painted like Shamu...killer whales aren't known for having the ability to fly.
That said, since I've never liked the more recent (Phase IV) version of the "Superliner" lettering, I agree that the cars would look better without it.
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I've always felt that scrawling "Superliner" or "Viewliner" on the cars makes them look like a cheesy thrill ride at an amusement park --
Funny, that's what I always felt about the Phase III "Superliner" chunky script lettering.
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The understated new look is cleaner. More classic. Just like yours truly, of course.
And that's what I thought about the Phase IV "Superliner" lettering, more elegant than Phase III. Its wierd how people interpret the same things in different ways.
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as long as they don't revert back to those 'sardine-can' commuter tubes for the long distance rides, I'm with dilly, they need to pick one and keep it, the paint doesn't necessarily have that much to do with their attraction of business
Actually, that pretty much sums up Empire Corridor service.
Also, there must be more than a few Amfleet II cars out of service, because they do use them when they're what rolls. Today's 48 had re-re-repainted short distance coach 82044 and a Horizon lounge car. I think the crews were thankful. This one actually had a diner.
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The new Superliner ph. V?
I'm a fan of the Ph. IV scheme on the superliners, but this one doesn't look that bad. I guess it all depends on the equipment. I never cared for the Genesis locomotives until I saw them under the Ph. V paint.
It seems that about the time they get all the equipment painted into a new scheme, they change it again. I personally like the look of a matching passenger set. I suppose though, you can easily date a photo of a trainset based on the paint schemes. (ph. III, III/IV, IV, and now IV/V.) However, I'm still seeing P42's in Ph. III....I guess they don't want to be boring.
Still, I'm happy to see equipment back on the tracks.
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), as it has the original phase IV stripes, but has been changed with the addition of the Amtrak logo and red safety stripe near the bottom of the cars.{By the way- there is an "Edit" feature to all posts which you can click on to change any wording that you would like (on your own messages), so even though there isn't a spell check, you can still change it if you find a mistake!}
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Come to think of it, "Ph. IVb" is also used to describe some variations of the express boxcars, right?
I'll be sure to use the edit feature from now on!
I don't doubt it! There seem to be at least five different schemes (and variations) out there. Are they also referred to as phases I through V on an entirely different chart than the locomotives!?
This is my favorite scheme: http://lib2.clark.cc.oh.us/amtrak/amtMHC/amt71089.jpg
...and they changed it as well with the style change of the lower bands of Ph V on the locomotives (beginning w/ unit 169). Confused yet?! http://lib2.clark.cc.oh.us/amtrak/amtMHC/amt71124.jpg