Looks like the Lake Shore (49) will be going back to it's old schedule and depart Penn Station around 3:45 pm . #48 will be leaving Chicago about an hour earlier.
Things are always subject to change but it seems the experiment is over after a disasterous few months
Posted by AMTK271 (Member # 1778) on :
Where did you read this, and when will this happen if it does? Thanks. -Paul
Posted by royaltrain (Member # 622) on :
That's too bad for those of us who board #49 out of Buffalo. The 9:00 pm departure was very convenient, although the 7:00 am arrival was too early into Chicago. Perhaps an 8:00 am arrival would make more sense. Also if #48 departs Chicago an hour earlier, that makes for even worse connections from the western trains.
Posted by reggierail (Member # 26) on :
I don't know the source of your information either. I've been checking availability in April and May and the schedule hasn't changed.
Reggie
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Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
Schedule changes will occur in mid April. Nothing will be changed in the availability until things are finalized....it's not a done deal but it seems likely.....ridership took a serious hit ...I guess people traveling west don't enjoy 8 hour layovers in Chicago
Posted by Italiancanuck89 (Member # 1873) on :
Check out the March issue of Railpace Magazine. It talks about all the problems with the new scheduale. Things like a decrease in sleeper ridership because of the odd timed departure and early arrival in Chicago. I also thought that the early arrival into Chicago was more for the extra time to service and turn the set during the trying winter months.
Royaltrain, are you from or around BUF,too?
Posted by daisybumble (Member # 855) on :
Gee, I wonder if Amtrak is going to let me know about the schedule change? I made reservations on the Amtrak site for the LSL two weeks ago (just before the sale ended). We're going NYC-Chicago in August. I don't really mind the change...we can leave for NYC at the same time and just have a leisurely lunch. And we won't be getting to Chicago at the butt-crack of dawn! Posted by royaltrain (Member # 622) on :
To Italiancanuck89:
I am from Toronto, however, whenever I travel to Chicago, I take Via's General Brock to Niagara Falls Ont., take a limo or taxi across the border to Buffalo and connect with #49. With the current time it is much better than having to wait many hours for a 2am (or later) departure out of Depew station. But if Amtrak would run the train just an hour later, it would be better for w/b connections out of Chicago as well as allowing for a little more rest for those of us in the sleepers.
Posted by Italiancanuck89 (Member # 1873) on :
ok, i got wind of something more anout the time change. 49 will be coming through BUF about 2hrs later (11pm) then it does now and 48 will be coming through around 5am, 284's current time. I assume that 284 will take 48's current time, too. As for 286, I'm still unsure.
Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
What I've heard is 11:40pm arrival in Buffalo and depart at midnight and #48 would be 5:30 departure out of Buffalo which would move #284 and #286 back....#286 would depart Niagara Falls about 10:00 AM
Looks like it should happen at the end of April
Posted by efin98 (Member # 1943) on :
so basically the change will happen when the usual semianual schedule change occurs
Posted by Amtrak207 (Member # 1307) on :
Boooooooooo!!!!
Has anyone been able to *confirm* this yet??? Back to screwing western NYers into waking up before morning to catch both and sticking three trains into Cleveland at essentially the same time. I won't be able to help you since ESPA sends my newsletter home and apparently is too overworked to update the webpage. NARP says the LSL will run "later westbound" for what that's worth. Of course, the right solution would be separating the NY and Boston sections to two different trains running 6-12 hours apart and we know how soon that's going to happen.
Posted by Italiancanuck89 (Member # 1873) on :
I've heard about the splitting of 49/48 and 449/448 into seperate trains in the past. I think it came pretty close to reality at one point but didn't go through. I think the idea is great though. For the railfans, it would provide more trains to see at better times, that and it would save time in ALB if one section is late arriving
Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
Last I heard it will go in to effect April 28th. I should know more soon......
Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
It's official... #49 departs Penn Station 2:50 PM arrives Chicago 9:07 am
#48 departs Chicago 7:00 PM arrives Penn at 1:50 PM
Posted by royaltrain (Member # 622) on :
For Buffalo passengers, #49 will arrive at 11:40 pm and depart at 11:55 pm. Train #48 departs Chicago at 7:00 pm and arrives in Buffalo at 5:15 am. I guess this means only one meal out of both New York and Chicago. Would I be correct in assuming that with the current 12:45 pm departure out of New York, sleeping car passengers are entitled to both a Lunch and a dinner when departing that city?
Posted by Amtrak288 (Member # 1967) on :
Ok, figure out this one, it looks like The Lake Shore won't be stopping in Sandusky or Elyria anymore after the schedule switch? I wasn't able to get a reservation for those cities on the Lake Shore, it appears that now you have to ride to Cleveland, and switch to the Capitol Limited that will now stop at those cities. Anyone know more about this?
Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
I wouldn't worry yet. There is also a time scheduled for Dunkirk NY....and I don't think that is going to happen. Give it another week so they can work the bugs out.
Posted by Amtrak288 (Member # 1967) on :
Dunkirk, NY? I know they've been trying for years to get an Amtrak Stop but I haven't heard anything about that here? I know there is a station there but Amtrak hasn't stopped there in years as far as I know.
Posted by Amtrak288 (Member # 1967) on :
To Add to my last post, Dunkirk, NY is served by a Thruway Bus Connection, the bus is run by Empire Transit Lines, which is operated by Coach USA. It runs past the station I mentioned in my last post, as far as Amtrak actually stopping there, well we'll have to see, once all the kinks are worked out of the system, it will be interesting how all this pans out.
Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
That was my point ...it will not work out.
As far as I know they still need an elevator there and do not have the money.
My point was that it usually take a week or two to fix the errors in the schedule
Posted by Italiancanuck89 (Member # 1873) on :
Where/How can i see the new scheduale for the Lake Shore?
Posted by Carknocker51 (Member # 2401) on :
Yup...in May I'll be traveling fr. TOL.to NYP&I just found out after upgrading to a standard room.It'll be a much longer wait for my Acela ride to WAS., But thats what the Lounge is for!
Posted by LateShoreLimited (Member # 2025) on :
250p NYP 334p Croton Harmon 605p Albany 640p SDY 757p Utica 906p Syracuse 1029p Rochester 1155p Buffalo 142a Erie 340a Cleveland 540a Toldedo 552a Waterlo 701a South Bend 907a Chicago from what i hear there are no plans to stop in Hammond, Elyria, Sandusky......you would have to make a connection in Cleveland.
