How Many E60MAs are runing on the Northeast Corridor? Reply me.
Posted by irishchieftain (Member # 1473) on :
At last report, none at present. Perhaps the rare one or two, but they are scheduled to eventually be scrapped or sold and replaced with the HHP-8. Time is quite short.
Posted by Amtrak Railfan (Member # 2579) on :
Is the AEM-7s will runing on the Long Distance on the Northeast Corridor to replaced the E60MAs at this time?
Posted by Amtrakman (Member # 2403) on :
The Crescent, A long "Long Distance" train, is being pulled by a AEM-7 instead of an E60. Kind of sad. . I always liked the look of the E60's pulling thier train.
------------------ ~Late train+more time on the train=The best trains~
Is all of the E60s scrapped or soon will be scrapped?
Posted by irishchieftain (Member # 1473) on :
The E60s will all soon be gone; whatever ones are not picked up by electric utility railroads will face the scrapper's torch. The GG-1 they were not, to be sure. I suspect that the HHP-8 will not live up to expectations as the E60's replacement in terms of handling long trains solo; at least the practice of switching to diesel at Philadelphia 30th Street seems to be coming to an end in some respects...
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Thinking back to March 1976, I quickly learned the E-60's were not GG-1's.
That was when I had my first ride behind an E-60. Sure enough, acceleration after passing New York Ave was "sporty enough" and I had thought Amtrak had a worthy replacement for the G. However, those thoughts were dashed at Landover Jct where we slowed to a "crawl"; this was an interlocking at which a G took at track speed.
For no apparent reasons, this E-60 hauled train lost anadditional 10 minutes "over the road" between Washington and Penn.
All I could think was how did Amtrak ever think that this "off the shelf" freight locomotive ever be adapted to passenger service.
I'm "not exactly" sobbing to hear they will soon be off Amtrak's roster.
Posted by Amtrak Railfan (Member # 2579) on :
Thats a sad News because the E60s will be gone soon thats right?
Posted by irishchieftain (Member # 1473) on :
Not terribly sad; after all, the E60s were originally supposed to be the 125-mph locomotive, an arena they failed miserably in, having been restricted to 80 mph for decades and only permitted 90 mph in recent years. If instead the E60 had been a GG-2 (for speculation's sake), then we would never have seen the Asea Rc4 nor heard of the AEM-7.
Posted by Amtrak Railfan (Member # 2579) on :
Hi I want to get information on the GG-2 please.
Thank you.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
GG-2 was simply a reference made to the thought of why didn't Amtrak simply dust off the plans of a GG-1 and build thirty more.
I heard that term as soon as the E-60's were about and that the railfan community learned that they could best be termed a "disappointment".
But my no means whatever did Amtrak consider such a move; and I further think it would have been imprudent to have made such a case.
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Posted by Amtrak Railfan (Member # 2579) on :
When all E60s are gone are the HHP-8 and the AEM-7s will take over?
Posted by irishchieftain (Member # 1473) on :
That is correct, sir.
Posted by Amtrak Railfan (Member # 2579) on :
Hi at this time is the Palmetto and the Sliver Star Trains will still change Locomtives in Philadelphia PA or in Washington DC?
Posted by Amtrakman (Member # 2403) on :
Im not sure about these two trains, but I do know the crescent switches from diesel power to electric power in Philidelphia.
------------------ ~Late train+more time on the train=The best trains~
quote:Originally posted by irishchieftain: Not terribly sad; after all, the E60s were originally supposed to be the 125-mph locomotive, an arena they failed miserably in, having been restricted to 80 mph for decades and only permitted 90 mph in recent years
The E-60's were never designed for 125 mph. They, the P30CH's and SDP-40F's were all regeared 6-motor freight designs. They were purchased with the goal of recouping the investment when Amtrak failed in less than 10 years.
Also, the only Florida trains still running RoadRailers and diesels from/to Philadelphia are 89 and 92
[This message has been edited by JAChooChoo (edited 07-07-2003).]
Posted by irishchieftain (Member # 1473) on :
The E-60's were never designed for 125 mph
Designed? No. Intended? Absolutely, otherwise they would not have undergone high-speed tests, in which one derailed at 108 mph.
They, the P30CH's and SDP-40F's were all regeared 6-motor freight designs. They were purchased with the goal of recouping the investment when Amtrak failed in less than 10 years
So it is popularly repeated. However, most SDP40Fs that went into freight were scrapped not so long after; the Pooches didn't quite make it that far. No investment recouped, and this is in spite of Amtrak sticking around past a decade. Also, six-motor locomotives do not automatically mean freight engines--the X996 from SNCF was a six-motor passenger engine which ran at 137 mph regularly on its home rails.
. I always liked the look of the E60's pulling thier train.