),, Back to my point,If anyone who works for the Amtrak or knows anything related to my question, Then please post Car numbers(I have the SupperLinner records printed) , consist details,ect.
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DONT call my neice "little"
She is *easly* braver than your sisy
Last year, the Southwest Chief was running mostly with Superliner I's - some renovated and some not. The Sightseer Lounge and Diner was a toss up - new or old. At one time you could count on one of the sleeper's being a Superliner II. Probably the luck of the draw on what your trainset mix will be.
Course you can count on at least two sleepers, one diner, one sightseer lounge, and about three coaches. On Day 2 aboard the Southwest Chief, spend most of it in the Sightseer Lounge. Day 2 has the best scenery.
Cyberspace...Dont be a jerk now..Why join a Train forum to insult trains??
PS. Jonathan you have to know how to spell SUPERLINER not SUPERLINNER lol no ofense!
PEACE EVERYONE and...
HAPPY ST. PATTY's DAY
Ponder and discuss.
And take this discussion to some teen spelling optional forum.
As far as the Southewest Chief consist goes, it is somewhat predictable but always has a surprise or two in the consists. But for several years now there has been one Superliner II sleeper and one Superliner I sleeper as the most common lashup. However I've been on the Chief with 2 II's and 2 I's so it is still a toss up.
I have several consists of the Chief I've been on but it probably wont help you as the cars seem to get swapped here and there.
But be sure to take down the car numbers as soon as you board, that way you'll know the history of the cars, if any, from the list you have.
On my latest trip, I was in the Maryland and this car was involved in a minor wreck on the Southwest Chief in 1997. Interestingly it was missing the state name on one of the upstairs vestibule doors. Most likely had to get a new door and lost it's original with the name.
(Speaking of the Chief I hear it outside my window, must be at the Imperial Highway crossing, man is she late tonight! Unless it's a Norfolk Southern lead freight again, I've fallen for it's Amtrak like horn once before. My guess though is it was the Chief, just extremely late for the eastbound #4)
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I'm going on the Southwest Chief from LA to Chicago (shouldn't it be called the Northeast Chief?) in June and have a standard sleeper booked.
to Jonathon... Why is your niece "nervous" about train travel? How could knowing what the consist is help?
I remember as a kid always being excited about new forms of travel and now going on 40 I still am!!
I tell my niece to look at her mum/dad or even me and if we are not scared then she has no reason to be scared herself it works for her.
And finally to cyberspace... you say flying is better because it is faster, that's not exactly rocket science is it? Speed has never been the allure of train travel. In fact its the opposite. In an aeroplane you never get to see the country flying at who knows how many miles high and at 000's of MPH's. In a train you get to see and experience things you never will in a plane... train travel is still about the journey itself not just the destination.
You don't need to be weird to be scared of going on a train either. Just check the news about Spain for an example..
You say Day 2 has the best scenery as I'm doing ths trip in June do you mean day 2 out of LA or Chicago?
Also to all here: what is the total (barring hold-ups) time that the trip takes? I know it goes over date-lines and the clocks need to be changed but what is the physical amount of real time the train should take from LA to Chicago?
From either direction, Day 2 is the best - crosses the same scenery on Day 2 whether going east or westbound. This is when you are in the heart of the Southwest - Arizona, New Mexico.
Do a search online, or even here at Trainweb, and there should be some more info, like the differences between the two.
The name of the Southwest Chief is actually more complicated than most of Amtrak's trains. Originally when Amtrak took over for the Santa Fe, Amtrak was allowed to continue to use the name Super Chief. And for a while there really wasn't much difference between the Santa fe Super Chief and the Amtrak Super Chief as the trains used the same equipment. But when Amtrak decided to cut some cars from the consist, especially the dining service, Santa Fe beleived that service would not be of a level to keep with the image of Santa Fe's Super Chief and they took the name back( the short lived Amtrak Texas Chief also lost its name as well). Thus Amtrak had to rename the train, hence the Southwest Limited (and Lone Star).
Only after the Limited received Superliners in the early to mid 80's, did service improve enough that Santa Fe once again allowed Amtrak to use the Chief name, thus the Southwest Chief was born. The direction the train travels had nothing to do with why Southwest was chosen. The main feature and scenery of the line was the southwest, and that's why it's called the Southwest Chief.
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Also will be prepared to take loads of photos/video of the trip on all days...
I'm sure I can't get any more wound up about this trip if I wanted to!!! LOL
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Originally posted by cyberspace:
An at least i don't have a IQ of 1.
Its hard to tell from the way he types.
Sorry gotta stick up for the J man
"cyberspace" what a nerd name
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JONATHON D. ORTIZ
Boyishcolt!
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--Anton
pillsbury09@excite.com
AIM: pillsburyMN
And I allready know about my spelling, so please dont remind me.
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--Anton
pillsbury09@excite.com
AIM: pillsburyMN
Train left Chicago at 4pm and arrived Flagstaff at 10:30pm th following night. Time change gains one hour so total travel time was 30.5 hours.
Second day from Chicago is the best while traveling over Raton. This time of year it gets dark around Galesburg.
Upgrade to a Deluxe sleeper.
Have more info on food and other notes if interested.
Greg
Baggage Car:1234
C34059
C31519
C34079
C33000
D38032
S32047
S32026
TS39005
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Sleeper 32026, has been refurbished and has the interesting ribed wall paneling.
Fairly typical consist for #4, with two sleepers and three coaches. The only thing that is a bit unusual is the location of the smoking coach (31519), as it usually is closest to the lounge. But other than that, very typical.