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Posted by littletrain (Member # 2660) on :
 
state your side and why


 


Posted by polarbearucla (Member # 2723) on :
 
GOP - no explaination necessary!
 
Posted by TheBriz09 (Member # 3166) on :
 
Well, I don't typically always vote for one party just because, but I tend to consider myself more of a Democrat than Republican. Dems tend to be more friendly to Amtrak (and I am aware that this is not always true). Also, I am strongly critical of the GOP's and Bush's environmental stance, as well as the handling of the Iraq war. So... I don't know too much about Kerry, but I am surely not going to be voting for Bush. I think that the majority of the countries in the world have come to hate that man, and I'm not too comfortable with that idea.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.
 


Posted by CHATTER (Member # 1185) on :
 
Why does the original poster create a post, and then sign back on, under his alter ego, and respond to the same question?
 
Posted by polarbearucla (Member # 2723) on :
 
To Chatter....maybe because I'm not littletrain...check my IP address if you are so inclined
 
Posted by Capltd29 (Member # 3292) on :
 
Donkey, 99.9%. Bush the Stupidist, (no I don't want to stoop to his level of intelligence(non-existant)), I'll say most , president since......
It's too bad I'm too young to vote(14)!!!!
 
Posted by Capltd29 (Member # 3292) on :
 
I screwed up in my previous post,

I'll say most, president...... <<< Capltd29
I meant to say most non-intellectual.


I also think that politics in this forum is getting out of hand , I know that I sound Hypocritical because I have been very far left in my recent replies, but I have released my steam and gonna get back to trains!!!
 


Posted by snake (Member # 2430) on :
 
In case you ain't figured it out, I'm a Reb.
 
Posted by SilverStar092 (Member # 2652) on :
 
It is so refreshing to see how intelligent you liberals are. Nothing like calling our President names. Yep, we Republicans are a bunch of dumb hicks. Since other countries supposedly hate our President, which I don't believe to be really true, we should give in. Why don't we turn our nation over to the U.N.? We can give all of our job salaries to The World and let them tell us how to live. Give me a break! You are entitled to your opinion but I am sick of hearing you people trash our President. Thank goodness we have a President who loves Jesus Christ and isn't afraid to live his faith. He has taken out a wicked dictator who ravaged his people and most of them love us. Just ask any honest military person who has been there as I have. If liberalism is so great, why can't you say what you are and tell everyone what you believe instead of trashing the man who is working hard and doing an honest job? I agree that President Bush hasn't been a pal of Amtrak but I don't recall Clinton doing anything for them except giving us Tom Downs and George Warrington who both ran the company into the ground. At least under the current administration, we got David Gunn. I wish we could ditch Mineta...who, by the way, was held over from Clinton's days.
 
Posted by CHATTER (Member # 1185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by polarbearucla:
To Chatter....maybe because I'm not littletrain...check my IP address if you are so inclined

What I see is that both names signed up within several weeks of each other last summer. Both names posted with a similar frequency from last August through February, then stopped posting altogether. Both names have suddenly reappeared during this past month. That is what I see.
 


Posted by scannergeek (Member # 3378) on :
 
Why are we talking about any of this in the Amtrak forum?
 
Posted by polarbearucla (Member # 2723) on :
 
To chatter -

Its nice to know that you follow my record of postings, but as I said before if you want to accuse me of being a double please do your homework and check my IP address. Now, unless you have some actual proof, I think its best that we talk about trains!
 


Posted by polarbearucla (Member # 2723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverStar092:
Just ask any honest military person who has been there as I have.

Thankyou for protecting this great country!

 


Posted by MPALMER (Member # 125) on :
 
quote:
ucla:

GOP - no explaination necessary!


UCLA = taxpayer subsidized education.

Nothing wrong with that, but you must be one of a small (GOP) minority at UCLA!
 


Posted by littletrain (Member # 2660) on :
 
for the record i signed up a month before polarbear
 
Posted by polarbearucla (Member # 2723) on :
 
Who ever said ucla was for the university of california at Los Angeles?

I dont even go there
 


Posted by Mr. Toy (Member # 311) on :
 
I wasn't going to play along since this is way OT, but since almost everyone else has, I might as well....

I am neither. I am an independent voter. Sometimes I lean left. Sometimes I lean right. But I avoid of the gutters on the extreme left and right sides of the road.

"Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers too the right,
Here I am,
Stuck in the middle..."
a victim of the crossfire.

(The above quote should be familiar to anyone over 30.)
 


Posted by sojourner (Member # 3134) on :
 
I am ex-Republican, if that now makes me a Democrat, so be it. I will assuredly vote for Kerry, if for no other reason than I think Bush has made so many enemies in the rest of the world that America needs a change of government for our security's sake. However, there are many many other reasons as well and, in fact, I think the Bush administration is just about the worst this country has ever known, certainly in my lifetime. I don't have time or inclination to argue further about it here, when it is so clearly OT. Nor, having made the Great Leap from the GOP myself, do I really have much interest in chatting with people (other than old friends or relatives) who still support the current Republican party, since I'm afraid it's hard for me to respect their opinions enough to bother. I am sorry if that sound rude, but the evidence of Bush being awful seems pretty plain to me.


 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Off topic from this off topic discussion (guess the double negative make it on topic).

What I believe will be quite interesting is to observe to what extent and with what degree of enthusiasm Bill and Hillary "hit the trail' in behalf of "the Two Johns".

Hillary really has only one chance; it's '08 or never. She will be 61 years of age then, or "Big Sis" is running. Hypothesing (as distinct from predicting) that Kerry wins this year, Hillary would then not be in a position to "go for it" until '12 (one does not challenge a sitting president's renomination - OK, it's been done I know)when she would be 65. Now its "Grandma is running" (Chelsea will likely have delivered an appropriate stage prop by then), and for this first big step of a woman major party nominee, 'Grandma" may simply be too much to overcome.

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Posted by dixiebreeze (Member # 3224) on :
 
Regardless of if and/or when Hillary runs, it's nearly inconceivable she or her ilk could take any Southern state in an election. Same for John "Hanoi" Kerry. And Edwards, despite his charisma, is a scalawag, a DINO.

When the bottom line arrives i.e. the polling booth, voters will not change horses in mid-stream and WILL vote for security rather than trust a dilitante (sp).

As far as other countries "liking us," that's about a 1 on my list of 10 concerns. I'm really sick of PC pleasing our enemies -- who only want to bury us.

A strong America is our only salvation, along with leaders of character.
 


Posted by dixiebreeze (Member # 3224) on :
 
BTW, I am a registered Independent.
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Ms Breeze--

I'll check my Social Register for the spelling of your word in question.

Whoops, better just make it my dictionary.

dillettante - no pasted star today
 


Posted by CHATTER (Member # 1185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by littletrain:
for the record i signed up a month before polarbear

Precisely what I said--several weeks apart.

I have done my homework and I have presented my findings. Having multiple ISP's is easily done and therefore constitutes no evidence. It is the pattern of postings to which I have referred; that is the REAL homework.

And proof of that is here in this thread, where both alter egos respond in a similar matter, intent on having the last word, all in a misguided attempt to create partisan political strife in an Amtrak forum.

 


Posted by SilverStar092 (Member # 2652) on :
 
Good posts, Dixie Breeze. Also, I respect your comments Mr. Toy as this country needs more analysis of candidates by what they say and do, not just labels. Indeed, who cares about how other countries feel? The USA saved the French and other Europeans when Hitler had them down. America rebuilt those countries and has typically rebuilt our enemies' countries after we have defeated them (as we are doing in Iraq). If they don't like us, so be it. Perhaps they are jealous that we are the best nation on Earth and the most compasionate despite what some say or think. It is time for optimisim and pride in our country, not this "America stinks" attitude of the left. I do wish we would reduce some of our normal foreign aid and give it to Amtrak but that has gone on for decades and will continue. Now it is time for train talk!
 
Posted by MPALMER (Member # 125) on :
 
quote:

Who ever said ucla was for the university of california at Los Angeles?

I dont even go there


Then it must be University on Crenshaw near Lake Alondra (El Camino College)
 


Posted by espeefoamer (Member # 2815) on :
 
Republican and proud.I know Republicans make more noise about being anti Amtrak, but Amtrak was started by a Republican president,and the largest cuts have been under Democratic administrations.
Support our troops!

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Trust Jesus,Ride Amtrak.
 


Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
 
So far I have avoided this one.

It has got to be Bush.

He is a liar like his father is a wimp. Remember that one? The "wimp" was shot down over the Pacific during WW2, got up and went out again.

Now Kerry? He makes my skin crawl. As does his "my father was a millworker" VP choice. If you like high priced medical services vote for the malpractice lawyer.

The last Dem I voted for was Jimmy Carter, and have I ever done penance for that one ever since, and I am not even Catholic.

If I were go for any changes it would be for Condileeza Rice (sorry if I misspelled it) as VP and then President in 2008. The woman is brilliant and has good sense, a rare combination. And, a southerner as well, dixiebreeze.
 


Posted by yukon11 (Member # 2997) on :
 
I'll put in a vote for Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate. I like him because he trusts each of us, not the government, to run our own lives.
 
Posted by irish1 (Member # 222) on :
 
president bush
 
Posted by Eric (Member # 674) on :
 
I am not a huge Kerry fan, but Bush's violent and dangerous policies and actions in everything from the environment to world affairs have made me deeply upset with his administration, and I could not survive another four years of that. I am 18 and a newly registered democrat, and I hope to take a stand this November.
 
Posted by espeefoamer (Member # 2815) on :
 
George W. Bush. I don't care if the rest of the world likes us or not. Bush is president of the United States. He is NOT president of the world.

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Trust Jesus,Ride Amtrak.
 


Posted by EmpireBuilder (Member # 2036) on :
 
When I first voted at the age of 18 I thought I was a Republican, but now I know better. I viewed our country as having the best overall situation for people to live in in the world and as long as peopled worked hard they would be just fine. I voted only on issues that bothered me one way or another (abortion for an example) not thinking that anything major would effect me one way or another.

However now that I've gotten a better view of the world, things make me sick. It is basically a crime in this country to get sick, because if you do it can all be taken away. My father is the supposed American ideal, a small business owner for quite some time now. But he also has a few minor medical issues that means no normal insurance company will insure him. The only one that will requires a significant portion of his yearly income. The rest of the industrilized world pays less per capita for their health care and actually does have it guarenteed to them. Here a person can fork over their money to pay for insurance, but when they get sick and can't afford it, they can be kicked right off, making all their payments having gone for nothing.

This doesn't even get me started with the war in Iraq that our President has us involved in. He posed no threat to our country, and that is the only purpose that our armed forces should be used for. I don't want anyone telling me otherwise. I mean if you really belived it, you wouldn't be sitting at home on your computer right now, would you?

I'm not holding my breath with all the partisan bickering going on, but I believe putting Democrats back in control is the only decent chance our country has to save itself from decline.
 


Posted by rresor (Member # 128) on :
 
<<sigh!>>

Yes, the decline of America. Takes me back to the early 70s when we were going to build a brave new world without hypocrisy and with justice for all.

Didn't happen. And if you find a politician selling that line, and believe him/her, I've got a bridge to sell.

Now lets get back to trains.

 


Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
 
If you like high medical costs, you will love the John & John team. Remember Edwards has gotten rich off of suing doctors and hospitals. Where do you think these multimillion dollar judgements come from? The insurance companies. Where do you think they get it? By charging high rates. How do those rates get paid? By incresing doctors' and hospitals' fees. Who pays them? YOU DO!! 'Nuff said, without even mentioning extra tests and other forms of defensive medicine practices so that you can try to show the lawyers you tried to do a good job when things go wrong. If you think medical costs are too high, BLAME THE LAWYERS!
 
Posted by EmpireBuilder (Member # 2036) on :
 
George Harris,

I agree with you an extent on the role of extensive lawsuits causing a problem with this system. I think it would help prices SOME to eliminate frivilous lawsuits, and settlements that are extensive. But let us not forget that sometimes these suits are justified. If the doctor screws up I should get some sort of compensation. Maybe not 10-15 million, but probably more than the $250,000 cap on settlements that is being proposed by the current administration.

Also, next time current Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is up for election he should be voted out of office as well, especially with your logic being used. He is a doctor and I believe his father owns many FOR PROFIT hospitals across the country. Surely you have to admit there is a conflict of interest there.
 


Posted by Mike Smith (Member # 447) on :
 
empirebuilder:
The $250,000 is for punative damages only.

There is no cap on actual damages, such as hospitals, continuing medical treatment, property damage, etc. If that will cost you $5,000,000, you will get it.

Also, most of Congress is made up of lawyers.
We have lawyers making the laws they will use to earn their living! Talk about your massive conflict of interests!
 


Posted by EmpireBuilder (Member # 2036) on :
 
Lawyers, doctors, oil men. They seem to be the only ones who are in politics anymore, so no matter what side of the political spectrum one is on, there is some conflict of interest existing

I probably shouldn't have beaten this dead horse of a topic back to the top of the page. Unless someone says something that I feel merits a response I think myself and everyone else should leave this alone from now on. It's not the reason we come to this particular forum.
 


Posted by dfwguy (Member # 3082) on :
 
Proud Texas Democrat - - no explaination necessary!
 
Posted by Ray (Member # 10) on :
 
We'll have a forum in Liberty.com soon enough so how about saving your political thoughts for that place and keep rail conversation in RAILforum.com.
 
Posted by Nasscarr1720 (Member # 2060) on :
 
Republican and proud to be an American...
 
Posted by morseman (Member # 3416) on :
 
note to jay........I'm also a junior member and agree with you. I'm a proud Canadian and I find it very amusing when I read the comments posted. I would love to argue with writers on the policies of Canada and U.S. on Free Trade, Iraq, Social Issues, Education, and especially medical care.

oh yes I almost forgot, relationships with foreign countries, .........however lets keep these forums open to rail related matters only.
 


Posted by Mike Smith (Member # 447) on :
 
I wonder why no "reb" has responded....

{It's not my fault.... I'm a Texan...}


 


Posted by JFB (Member # 2520) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mikesmith:
I wonder why no "reb" has responded...

One word: Appomattox.

But honestly, much of the commentary here is about as convincing and substantive as the spelling of this topic is correct. Enlightened minds can make cases for both sides of this polarized election. But too often, our ideas--and decisions at the polls--come from the darkest pits of our guts.

The undoing of America will come not from Democrats or Republicans. It will come from us and our damn idiotic squabbling.
 


Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
 
"I wonder why no "reb" has responded"

I thought several had, but then some of us do know how to write a literate sentence, so maybe you didn't notice because we did not fit your prejudices.

No apologies for being one, either.

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Posted by Mike Smith (Member # 447) on :
 
Mr Harris, you're a reb?

What's a reb? Is it short for rebel? Or is it a reference to the Confederacy?
 


Posted by CoastStarlight99 (Member # 2734) on :
 
GREEN!!!!!!!

No just kidding,
Democrat

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--Anton L.
pillsbury09@excite.com
AIM: pillsburyMN
 


Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
 
Reb is short for Rebel. My father considered it a somewhat low-class term for those who supported or were part of the Confederacy. He was right, but it is a very minor issue. We were no more rebels than John Adams, Patrick Henry, et al when they rebeled against England. The only difference is, we lost. To the best of my knowledge, my ancestry from that time were supporters of the Confederacy, even those who felt the cause was hopeless. Most of those in my ancestry that served were in the Army of Tennessee, some in Georgia troops, and at least one that rode with Nathan Forrest. No Yankees to my knowledge in either my or my wife's ancestry.

I will not get into the driving reasons here, but slavery was primarily the propoganda issue. Remember, history books are written by winners, and in the case of the US, apparently primarily in Boston, which is why the Pilgrims are given large play in the History books even though they ended up in Massachusetts primarily due to bad navigation or desperation (their objective was Virginia) as the Jamestown settlement had been in place for over 10 years. It has been said that the state with the largest number of revolutionary battlefields was New Jersey, and the final battle where Cornwallis surrenedered was in Virginia. Ask the Canadians their version of the war of 1812. The one I heard is that it was fought between the US and Canada and Canada won, otherwise, in their opinion Canada would not exist as a separate entity, but would be part of the US. Maybe not too far fetched considering the expansionist tendencies of some at the time. It has been well said that the War Between the States was actually fought over a verb tense, whether the United States "is" or the United States "are".
 


Posted by JONATHON (Member # 2899) on :
 
cant decide?

See the Movie "Fahrenheit 911"

You'd be suprized at what bush did to this country, they even have the video of bush being told about the Planes hitting the building then doing nothing, then the footage when the tell him the second plane had hit, and he still did nothing

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JONATHON D. ORTIZ
 


Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
 
This is fiction. Actually, it is beyond that, it is propoganda. It is not in any sense a documentary as it postures itself to be. Read some of the discussions on this movie. Many, probably most, if not all of the events in the movie have been fictionailzed and mangled beyond all recognition to fit Moore's objective.

One item of explanation: If a person is defined as a political figure, the laws of libel and slander virtually do not apply, so Moore can create any scenario he likes without worrying about those he lied about taking him to court.
 


Posted by boyishcolt (Member # 3001) on :
 
George we must have had the same US History teacher i agree completley
that movie was a waste of film
no matter what party you believe in the movie was edited to one mans likeing.
interesting comments from those who have not even taken a US constitution test much less a goverment class

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Posted by rresor (Member # 128) on :
 
I had hoped we could avoid partisan bickering (see my earlier post) but here we are again. Mr. Harris, my ancestors fought on both sides in the Civil War, but I wholly agree with your take on history. The Yankees could have hired Mr. Moore to write the history books. We celebrate "Thanksgiving" but there is no national celebration of the landing at Jamestown. The reason for this is as you say.

Now, for a real trivia question (also relevant to your point about the winners writing the history). What was the first permanent European settlement in North America? (hint: it was neither Plymouth nor Jamestown, and it's still inhabited)

To bring this back to trains, it is also served by a U.S. railroad (and not by carfloat, either).


 


Posted by CoastStarlight99 (Member # 2734) on :
 
Farenheit 9/11"

Cons: Michael Moore is very radical.

Pros: There were several things that DEFFINETLY was not edited by Moore.

He did a good job on that film.

Also reccomend Bowling for Columbine and I want to see Roger & Me

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--Anton L.
pillsbury09@excite.com
AIM: pillsburyMN
 


Posted by Capltd29 (Member # 3292) on :
 
Micheal Moore is a propagandist, but that does mean don't propagandize << don't know if it is a word, truthfully.

I am tired of people who haven't even seen the movie condemning it for being a lie.

It may be false, I don't know, but I doubt it.

I loved Bowling for C'bine.


 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
A guess at Mr. Resor's trivia Q

Mexico(City).

Settled in the early 1500's

Served by the Grupo Transportacion
Ferroviaria Mexicana, SA de CV or TFM, which is partly owned by the Kansas City Southern
 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
OK folks, since anything absent lewdness seems to go around here, here's one to "chomp' at.

Name THREE Amtrak stations whose names are derived (not necessarily named after) from that of a pagan who became a Saint.

Hint; two of the stations start with a Scarlet Letter

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Posted by TBlack (Member # 181) on :
 
I, too, think we ought to get off the politics - not getting anywhere but using up space. So I'll rise to the challenge of this religious question: how about St. Paul, and to qualify for one of the scarlet letters, San Antonio. I'm at a loss for the other one but just to "play the game" St. Albans!
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
You are on the right track Mr. Black.

Three Station's names derived from ONE man.
 


Posted by TBlack (Member # 181) on :
 
Gad! Mr. Norman, I thought you were a CPA - why can't we have number-type questions from you? I'm much better at those!

OK, St. Paul certainly fits the parameters of part of your question. And I see that there's a Santa Paula, CA on the Amtrak list and a San Pedro - does that count? But I don't seem to be able to come up with the Scarlet Letter part. You've got to give me part credit anyway, right?

It's 5:30 EDT (martini time). I'll have to check in later and see how compassionate you are.
 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Mr. Black--

St Paul converted to Christianity from Judaism.

Not who I have in mind.

Oh well, we get away from one taboo topic (politics) and into another (religion).
 


Posted by TBlack (Member # 181) on :
 

St Paul converted to Christianity from Judaism.

I knew that; just lost my head for a moment there.

How about Augusta, GA for starters? That REALLY fits all of your parameters.
 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Closer than St Paul, except that Amtrak does not serve Agusta, GA.

I'm looking for three STATIONS, at which trains stop, not religious figures.

You have been very close, Mr. Black.

Hint: I don't mean to talk religion around here, but my church, Episcopalian (Anglican), also recognizes Saints.

Note: This is not impossible, I guarantee you there is another Member here, who may or may not choose to participate, for whom this is a "who is buried in Grant's Tomb?" quiz question.
 


Posted by JFB (Member # 2520) on :
 
A much better-tasting course. I'll bite.

I think Mr. Norman is referring to Albany-Rensselaer, NY, St. Albans, VT, and Albany, OR. The honoree: St. Alban, a 4th-Century Romano-Briton soldier who sheltered a Christian priest, converted, and for his troubles promptly became the island's first martyr.

And speaking of Saints, North America's first permanent European settlement (per Mr. Resor's question) is named after one, too: St Augustine, FL. Founded by Spain in 1565. Also home to one of North America's oldest surviving railroad companies, the Florida East Coast.

For the next question, inarguable, inoffensive geography: What state contains the easternmost portion of the US?

Hint: It has passenger trains, but none named "Downeaster."
 


Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
 
To answer rresor's question, and I am guessing, St. Augustine, Florida. The Spanish were way ahead of the English in getting to North America. Remember, the southern border of the North American continent is not the Rio Grande, but the border between Panama and Columbia.
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Mr. JFB Submits--

"I think Mr. Norman is referring to Albany-Rensselaer, NY, St. Albans, VT, and Albany, OR. The honoree: St. Alban, a 4th-Century Romano-Briton soldier who sheltered a Christian priest, converted, and for his troubles promptly became the island's first martyr"

BINGO, Mr. JFB

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Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Here's another one , no religion, no politics, no history, just geography.

Name three stations of the same name in three states that Amtrak trains pass, but stop at only one of them.
 


Posted by RRRICH (Member # 1418) on :
 
JFB - the state with the easternmost portion of the United States is ALASKA!! (the Aleutians cross into the eastern hemisphere, and Alaska does have passenger trains!)
 
Posted by rresor (Member # 128) on :
 
Mr. Harris, you claim the prize. I was indeed thinking of St. Augustine, founded in 1535, about 70 years before Jamestown and nearly a century before those boring Pilgrims landed on the "Plymouth Pebble".

As you pointed out earlier, the victors write the textbooks.

And Gilbert, you know of my relationship to St. Alban, and that's who I would have guessed if someone had not gotten there first. St. Albans is obvious, but Albany? I don't actually think that name has anything directly to do with St. Alban.

As to your quiz question, the answer is Columbus. Amtrak does stop at Columbus, WI, but not at Columbus, OH or Columbus, GA (or for that matter at Columbus, MS).


 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
A BINGO for Mr. Resor, even though it was not where I had in mind.

My question was flawed, so let me try again.

Name three Stations (as defined in the Book of Rules) all with the same name at which passenger trains (once again, as defined in the Book of Rules) stop, where Amtrak goes through all three, yet makes a station stop (defined, guess where; the Book) at only one.

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Posted by JFB (Member # 2520) on :
 
Rich:

Alaska is correct. You can't get more east than the easternmost part of the Eastern Hemisphere. If the Aleut made cigars, you’d get one.

Mr. Resor:

Albany, NY works within the parameters of Mr. Norman's question. Though not named directly for the saint, it was named in honor of James II of England, who at the time was Duke of St. Albans. Namesake by proxy. I don’t know about Albany, OR, but since the British held claim to the Oregon Territory in the late 18th/early 19th Centuries, I'd imagine the nomenclature is the same.

By the way, I think St. Augustine was founded in 1565, not 1535. Still beats Jamestown by a generation.

Mr. Norman:

Hamilton?

Ohio--Cardinal stop; New Jersey--NEC route/NJT stop; Ontario--Maple Leaf route/GO Transit (VIA?) stop.

 


Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Mr. Resor--

Cortez first visited Mexico (city) during 1519 (source: Encarta), it's in North America and the TFM has a substantive American interest.

However, I grant that St Augustine is a better answer. FEC is substantially owned by US interests (can't say exactly how much, stockholder listings, unless the interest is substantive, are private).

Mr. JFB--

You too get a bingo, even if it wasn't what I had in mind. I'd best withdraw the question.

I had in mind Riverside, CT (Corridor MNCR stops, Amtrak doesn't), IL (METRA stops, Amtrak doesn't), CA (both Amtrak and Metrolink stop).

I once remember posing the question before Amtrak added Riverside CA as a stop for the Chief. Then the question was three passenger stations, three states, Amtrak goes through but stops at NONE.

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Posted by JFB (Member # 2520) on :
 
Alas, I forfeit the bingo. Ontario isn't a state. I wouldn't have guessed Riverside. Didn't even know it was on the New Haven.
 


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