Part of my upcoming NW/Alaska trip includes the Empire Builder to Seattle. I'm booked at Pioneer Square per advice here, and that seems to be pretty close to the Amtrak station. But some of what I'm reading suggests the area in between is a little rundown . . . My question: Should I consider walking when I get in if my luggage isn't too heavy? Is it OK for a female to walk alone in that area, at least in the daytime?
Also, any input on the International District aka Chinatown--is that OK to walk to? OK to walk in?
Posted by chrisg (Member # 2488) on :
Get off the Empire Builder walk up to the street. Hang a right go past Union Station and cross the street. Take the Waterfront Trolley to where it starts along the Harbor and get off at the first stop there. Pioneer Squaue Hotel is a short block north.
Virtually walk the route using Google Earth. The images are quite clear. Familiarize yourslef with your trek ahead of time. Google Earth
Just enter the address you're interested in.
The Monorail may be running soon!
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
Wow.
This Google Earth site looks like a remarkable and addictive internet tool. My yard may not get mowed today!
As for the Pioneer Square area, I would second Chris's suggestion that you catch the trolley. The area you would otherwise be walking through has an attractive park adjacent to a large soup kitchen. That area is pretty thick with homeless panhandlers. Chinatown substantially less so.
Posted by Dan Adams (Member # 1177) on :
There's no trolley, just a bus.
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
The waterfront trolley in Seattle terminates a block or two east of the old Union Station. Add a block to get in and out of King Street Station but it's still less than five minutes walking. This terminus is also right at the edge of Chinatown.
Yes, transit directly from King Street Station is a bus but with a short walk there is a Heritage Trolley available. Tracks, overhead wires, the whole nine yards.
Posted by sojourner (Member # 3134) on :
I will not take a bus or trolley with luggage; it's too much hassle. (Walking, OTOH, isn't a problem as the luggage has wheels.) I guess I will just take a taxi. Thanks!
Posted by RRRICH (Member # 1418) on :
Sojourner - I've stayed at Pioneer Square Hotel several times. It is close to King Street Station, but I always take a taxi -- it's a relatively short ride, and will only cost a couple dollars.
Parts of Seattle can get bad, especially if your train arrives late at night (I forgot, are you taking the CS or the EB to Seattle?)
--Rich K
Posted by Charles Reuben (Member # 2263) on :
When I was in Seattle (enroute to Vancouver B.C.) I stayed at some sleezy hostel right above the waterfront. I took a taxi to the hostel from the Amtrak station. It seems there are millions of taxis waiting out front.
It cost me about $5 to get to where I was going. Although I could probably have walked, I'm glad I took a cab because the terrain was rather hilly and I had a lot of bags.
Also, the neighborhood, looks kinda tough.
Posted by DeeCT (Member # 3241) on :
Sojourner -- am currently in Seattle and would suggest taking a taxi -- especially if arriving after dark. I am at a downtown hotel and it cost $5.30 (plus tip) for taxi to here.
Posted by wigwagfan (Member # 664) on :
Pioneer Square is not that bad in daylight hours, but you may want to watch your back when the sun sets - and watch your belongings at all hours. I've walked through the area with no problems at all.
Posted by sbalax (Member # 2801) on :
Google Earth is fun to play with but not all that exact. I put in my address and it showed a location a block away of the correct location. Does anyone know how often this is updated?
Frank in cloudy SBA
Posted by JONATHON (Member # 2899) on :
quote:Originally posted by Room Service: Virtually walk the route using Google Earth. The images are quite clear. Familiarize yourslef with your trek ahead of time. Google Earth
Just enter the address you're interested in.
The Monorail may be running soon!
When is it coming, will be running by July?
Posted by wigwagfan (Member # 664) on :
quote:Originally posted by JONATHON: The Monorail may be running soon!
When is it coming, will be running by July? [/QB][/QUOTE]
If you are thinking of using the Monorail as an alternative to a taxi - forget it.
First of all, the Monorail is a significant distance from King Street Station. (It's a hearty walk, but not one I'd eagerly recommend with more than a small wheeled suitcase.)
Secondly, it's expensive by mass-transit means, forces you to navigate a shopping mall (Westlake Center) with that same luggage, and then you'll have to take a long walk to whatever hotel you are staying at at Seattle Center. You're still better off taking a taxi - but at least the Seattle Center hotels tend to be a little less expensive than the downtown hotels.
If you choose that option - the monorail is a fun ride, but if you are making the trip back and forth downtown, get to know a bus line, because the Monorail will cost you about $4 or $5 each round trip - and no, the Monorail is not part of Metro, and therefore there is no such thing as a "transfer".
Posted by dmwnc1959 (Member # 2803) on :
quote:Originally posted by sojourner: Part of my upcoming NW/Alaska trip includes the Empire Builder to Seattle.
Im sure you've researched your journey, but I thought this 'Empire Builder' link was interesting...
Frank in overcast SBA
Posted by rtabern (Member # 4306) on :
QUICK QUESTION ABOUT SEATTLE!
In less than 2 weeks I am taking the Empire Builder from Chicago to Seattle. My mother and I are going to Alaska too. Our plan was to catch a cab from the station to the airport and head off to Fairbanks.
But, Alaska Airlines changed our flight time recently and it will give us 3-4 hours to explore Seattle. We're hoping to head up to the Space Needle on the above mentioned bus/trolley.
The question is... can we store our bags once we arrive in Seattle... let's say from 10:20AM arrival to maybe when we come back around 3-4PM?
Is there any cost?
(we're going sleeper)
Posted by dmwnc1959 (Member # 2803) on :
quote:Originally posted by rtabern: The question is... can we store our bags until when we come back around 3-4PM?
I stayed in Seattle for a month living downtown at a hostel 1 block from Pike Place Market. One piece of advice if you havent been to Seattle before...
Watch out for the heavy afternoon inter-city traffic and southbound P.M. rush hour traffic and take that heavily into consideration when determining a time to head back to the airport!
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