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In case anyone is interested, I've just updated my web page covering the proposed Caltrain extension to Salinas and Coast Daylight revival. See it here: Caltrain and the Coast Daylight Its written from the Monterey County perspective.
sbalax Member # 2801
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Interesting reading for a Sunday Afternoon, Mr. Toy. Thanks for posting it.
Would a shuttle still be needed from Millbrae to SFO? Doesn't BART continue on to Millbrae after the SFO stop? I've only ridden as far as SFO but I was sure the train was continuing to Millbrae. Is the BART station too far from the CalTrain stop?
Frank in Sunny SBA
Mr. Toy Member # 311
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Good question, Frank. The bit about the shuttle came from the earlier incarnation of that page, and I just left it in. It came from a report I read some years ago, which was likely written before the BART extension. Still, BART qualifies as a shuttle as "a train, bus or plane making short, frequent trips between two points" per my dictionary.
rY. Member # 3528
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With the southbound Starlight running so far off schedule (mostly due to troubles NORTH of the Bay Area), might the proposal for an actual "Daylight" coastal run between the Bay Area and Los Angeles gain more traction?
(Just trying to find the lemonade amongst the various lemons..)
daniel3197 Member # 27
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Caltrain and BART have a LARGE Intermodal station at Millbrae. This Intermodal Station is designed to allow Caltrain to BART transfers. Currently this is the FARTHEST SOUTH that the large BART system extends on the Peninsula. This Wikipedia page gives the basics about this large transfer facility: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millbrae_Station The Millbrae Historical Society operates a very nice Millbrae Depot Museum in the old Millbrae Southern Pacific Railroad commuter depot. There is even a REAL Pullman sleeping car displayed just south of the historic depot. The "Civic Center" Pullman Car was used on the Chicago to Oakland(SF) City of San Francisco streamliner train (built early 1940s). http://www.millbraehs.org/
I hope this answers most of your questions! --- Daniel
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quote:Originally posted by sbalax: Interesting reading for a Sunday Afternoon, Mr. Toy. Thanks for posting it.
Would a shuttle still be needed from Millbrae to SFO? Doesn't BART continue on to Millbrae after the SFO stop? I've only ridden as far as SFO but I was sure the train was continuing to Millbrae. Is the BART station too far from the CalTrain stop?
Frank in Sunny SBA
sbalax Member # 2801
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Daniel--
Thanks for all the great information and links. The museum sounds like a great Saturday activity the next time I'm in the Bay Area.
Frank in Sunny SBA
yukon11 Member # 2997
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I also found Mr Toy's link to the Coast Daylight with the proposed timetable most interesting, especially with the proposed stops at Gillroy, Mt. View, and Palo Alto. Is the Coast Daylight something we can expect in the next few years, or is it just a proposal? Also, the Calif. High Speed Rail Authority has been proposing, for quite some time, a high speed passenger train from LA to the Bay Area with a branch to Sacramento. On the 2008 ballot, AB 713 is their proposal. Would the Coast Daylight be a high speed train? Or conventional? If they bring back the Coast Daylight, maybe they can bring back the Shasta Daylight. Here is a timetable from, I think, the late 1920's or 1930's:
Question: I always thought the Shasta Daylight's route was cental..e.g. through Eugene, Medford, Ashland, Weed, Shasta Springs, and on down. I saw a Shasta Daylight schedule, I believe from the 1950's, that had its route the same as the present-day Coast Starlight..through Eugene, over to Klamath Falls, then down to Mt. Shasta. Did the Shasta Daylight change routes, at some point in time? http://shastaroute.railfan.net/Images/Schedule.jpg Richard
Mr. Toy Member # 311
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The Daylight would be a conventional train, probably using Surfliner equipment. There are some suggestions it could get started in 2007 or 2008, but I'm not holding my breath. UP won't do capacity studies without a funding commitment from the state. The state transportation commission, which allocates transportation funds, won't commit funds without a commitment from UP. And around it goes....
wayne72145 Member # 4503
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I would love to see the Weed--Medford--Eugene line opened back up, the old Shasta Line through Cow Creek. In the old Roseburg rail station they have a picture of Nixon from the back of a train running for president in '60--so I know they were using the line in the 60's. It's now the Central Oregon and Pacific Railroad line. It's used mainly for the lumber mills in the area and I see that they use the mail track for a siding to park cars near the mills. I live near the track and I rarely hear a train. The line through Cow Creek is beautiful and it would be nice to see passengers on it again.
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