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Posted by RRRICH (Member # 1418) on :

Here's another route question for you guys -- I will be updating my route maps of the Sunset Ltd soon also -- in a thread several months ago (I forgot what the title of it was), it was stated that the Sunset between Houston and Beaumont uses bi-directional running -- the eastbound route is different than the westbound route. Can someone explain again where each of these routes are, or, better still, provide a link to a UP system rail map map showing both routes perhaps?

(please don't tell me things like "Acme Tower to MP 111.5 to Dove Junction," since those features are NOT shown on DeLorme's 3-D Topo Quads!!!!!)

Thanks a lot! -- "Railroad Rich" in Florida

Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :

Look at this guy map.

http://www.trainweb.org/jssand/Houston/A-HoNuMasFrw.pdf

Sunset uses #4 going to Beaumont from Houston.
Sunset uses #5 coming from Beaumont to Houston.

He explains #4 and #5 here:

http://www.trainweb.org/jssand/Houston/Houston.htm

Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :

Oh yeah, the two routes stay about 5 to 10 miles apart depending on location. Then merge inside Beaumont here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=beaumont&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=30.071527,-94.173217&spn=0.005719,0.016823&t=k&om=0&iwloc=addr

Posted by PaulB (Member # 4258) on :

Off-topic, but that reminds me of the Sunset's three possible routings between LA and Pomona:

1. Metrolink between LA and El Monte, then UP Alhambra Sub
2. UP Alhambra Sub all the way
3. UP LA Sub

Posted by RRRICH (Member # 1418) on :

Thanks a lot, gp35!!! Your maps will be very helpful to me!!!

--Railroad Rich

Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :

Picture from this website.
http://www.trainweb.org/chris/nok.html

This site shows the point whereas Amtrak leaves the Sunset Route in Houston. Also show the Mo-pac line returning to Sunset route in Beaumont. Shown in the picture.