Simply query any train at Train Status and the new feature I'm addressing will be quite evident.
Posted by wayne72145 (Member # 4503) on :
Thanks you for the heads up Mr Norman---this is a nice add to the Amtrak site
Posted by Henry Kisor (Member # 4776) on :
Are you referring to the Historical On-Time Performance? I hadn't seen that before.
Posted by train lady (Member # 3920) on :
I checked into the Capitol time table just to check it out and where they have the list of amenities is listed enhanced superliner sleeing accomodations. What is that? I do not recall seeing that before. I checked several other sites and no one else had that.
Posted by Geoff M (Member # 153) on :
Interesting idea to "name and shame" the railroads over which the trains operate. Shame nobody checked the punctuation: "Click on the route to view it's [sic] OTP. ".
Primary Cause of Delays [Sunset Limited] April 2008 Train Interference: 52.6%
* 85.5% on Union Pacific and former S.P. * 12.9% on Burlington Northern Santa Fe * 0.9% on CN - IC (Former GTW and IC)
Track and Signals: 27.6%
* 92.3% on Union Pacific and former S.P. * 7.4% on Burlington Northern Santa Fe * 0.2% on CN - IC (Former GTW and IC)
Equipment: 6.5%
* 100.0% on Union Pacific and former S.P.
Geoff M.
Posted by palmland (Member # 4344) on :
I wonder if this will show Amtrak related delays? Amtrak delays at stations and equipment problems are certainly a factor in overall performance.
Posted by City of Miami (Member # 2922) on :
Only if those delays are in the top 3 for the time period. All possible delays including passenger delays and Amtrak equipment failure are listed below.
Posted by royaltrain (Member # 622) on :
What is meant by "passenger delay?" Does that mean that a passenger somehow delayed the train, or that that passenger has been delayed by the train?
Posted by Geoff M (Member # 153) on :
Passenger Delays All delays related to assisting passengers. These delays include holding a station departure for passengers boarding or detraining, for passengers connecting from another train or for assistance to an ill or injured passenger. Also included are any necessary delays for providing appropriate assistance to disabled passengers.
Great new feature!!! Starting around June 1, I will be checking the "historical on-time performance" of the trains we will be riding in July -- this will help a lot!!
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
quote:Originally posted by Geoff M: Passenger Delays All delays related to assisting passengers. These delays include holding a station departure for passengers boarding or detraining, for passengers connecting from another train or for assistance to an ill or injured passenger. Also included are any necessary delays for providing appropriate assistance to disabled passengers.
And would also likely include holding a train that is already 7 hours late for another 30 minutes while the Salem, OR police arrive to arrest a passenger caught smoking marijuana in a bathroom. I'd call that rendering 'Appropriate Assistance'.
Such happened aboard the Coast Starlight on a trip I made in 2005.
Posted by Judy McFarland (Member # 4435) on :
I think it's a great feature, but it really doesn't answer the question of intermediate delays. For example, if I want to connect to the northbound Adirondack at Schenectady, I'd like to know its performance over the NYC-SDY part of the route. Since most of the problems seem to come from D&H parts of the route which are north of SDY, I wonder if that means that performance is considerably better south of SDY and that the OTP into SDY is considerably better than the overall shown.
Similarly, I'm not surprised that the overwhelming % of delays in the Empire Builder are on BNSF since relatively little of the route is on other lines.
Having said that, I do appreciate Amtrak's attempt to give some "heads up" advice on OTP to perspective travelers.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Something tells me this feature will not have a long shelf life as it appears to be shaping up into a "blame it on the railroads'.
I think a Class I host will soon object; and the "Adios" drumhead will soon be out.
If I were still in the industry, my objections would be noted.
Posted by Jarrod (Member # 4318) on :
The Class 1 Hosts are being blamed, but so would Amtrak if it was one of the top 3 delays. Actually, all of this information (although in a little bit more difficult format) is available in the monthly Amtrak Performance Reports, already listed on the website....
Posted by jlcks (Member # 7282) on :
That will give you individual city pairs for a certain train, but will not tell you why. This also gives you a day by day for the previous 4 weeks.
JIM
Posted by Greg (Member # 66) on :
I'm glad this has been added and think this is helpful. While some might avoid Amtrak as a result, those might be those that would be most angry if delayed. Others at least have an understanding of what to expect and why, helpful in defusing anger should delays occur.
The on-line historical on-time information could be much more helpful if it contained information on the length of delays - average delay for late trains, percentage of late trains that were less than one hour late, 1 to 3 hours late, 3 to 6 hours late, etc. One our or less late for a LD train usually isn't a big deal. Twelve ours late is, though on some routes at some times it isn't/wasn't that unusual.
At one time, Amtrak included the host railroads in the timetables. I wonder if that will come back.
Posted by Charles802 (Member # 2162) on :
I believe Amtrak measures on-time performance at the endpoint of the journey, hence the train can be running quite late and then magically end up on-time through schedule padding between the second-to-last and last stop. I also seem to recall that the tolerance for "on-time" varies between 10 minutes and 30 minutes depending on the total distance of the train journey.
I noticed the Vermonter had OTP of 3.3% in April and 6.7% for the Texas Eagle
Coast Starlight definitely seems improved in on-time performance, at least when it has actually been running.
Posted by bywater (Member # 8351) on :
Say it loud, say it proud. Stand up and say, for all to hear, YES, we're causing Amtrak delays because our customers and profit are more important to our stockholders than your antiquated national passenger service! So what. You can't do anything about it. And By Gum, we'll continue to do it because it is in our own best interests. We Deliver!
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
disclaimer: author holds positions in BNI and NSC; (YTD08, BNI is the portfolio's best performing security).
Posted by bywater (Member # 8351) on :
Then why have any anxiety that someone is illustrating the issue as you seem to have? If the shoe fits......
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Then why must you register at this forum for no apparent reason other than to make a facetious off-topic comment?
We all get along pretty good around here - and without a moderator.
Posted by bywater (Member # 8351) on :
Off Topic? You put it in play. IF the freight railroads are so proud of delaying Amtrak, then one should not be upset when it is illuminated for all to see.
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