Just had an interesting experience with Amtrack Guest Rewards, and I'm wondering if anybody else has had a similar experience.
To make a long story short, I tried to book a Zephyr trip from EMY -> CHI leaving on December 16th. Now, the 17th is the first of the AGR blackout dates, but the 16th is not and the offical AGR legalese says "... travel origination on Redemption awards may not occur on the following dates/times ..." followed by a long list of blackout dates. Emphasis on the word "origination".
I asked the AGR CSR, Mandy, if this was OK and at the time she said sure, no problem. Mandy made the reservation, gave me a confirmation number and my AGR account promptly went down by 30,000 points.
You can guess the next part - a week later, Mandy called back to say that Amtrak had decided not to issue our tickets because the travel violated the blackout dates. After much back and forth, a week of various phone calls back to AGR Customer Service, AGR Trip Planning (whoever they are!) and various unseen supervisors, AGR finally agreed that "origination" really does mean "the start of the trip" and has promised to send us the tickets for real.
I hoping they keey their word this time and don't call me back in another week to say they've changed their mind again.
So I guess the lesson is that if you're persistent then AGR will actually honor the terms of the agreement, but they really make you work for it.
Bob
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Lest we forget, and Mr. Gizmo's experience is indicative of such, that Amtrak Guest Rewards is an independent business enterprise and has a relationship with Amtrak as that of a travel agency.
What I have never seen a report of here is whether tickets issued in exchange for AGR points are issued on standard Amtrak stock or on ARC Airline Ticket stock.
I doubt if I will live long enough to see a reward on my AGR account - balance at present is 7742 points racked up since I joined during 2005.
Posted by GIZMOS (Member # 4953) on :
quote:Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: Lest we forget, ... Amtrak Guest Rewards is an independent business enterprise"
It's true - AGR is not Amtrak. I don't know the exact legal nature of their relationship, but they're certainly separate. OTOH, AGR does business using Amtrak's name and the the Guest Rewards points, just like airline miles, are both an incentive and reward for travelling on Amtrak. I'm not sure it's a good idea for Amtrak to wash their hands of anything that AGR does.
quote:What I have never seen a report of here is whether tickets issued in exchange for AGP points are issued on standard Amtrak stock or on ARC Airline Tiocket stock.
The AGR tickets that I've received in the past look just like any other Amtrak tickets. Tell me what to look for and I'll let you know when (if!!) I receive this last set.
Bob
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Any ARC logo on the stock would be a good tip off. The absence of any Amtrak logo would be another.
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
I have a pair of Amtrak tickets in my home right now 'purchased' using AGR points. (The trip is in roomette Chicago-Atlanta via Washington.)
They are printed on regular Amtrak ticket stock.
Posted by sbalax (Member # 2801) on :
When was the last time anyone saw a paper airline ticket?
Here's an interesting article about the demise of paper tickets:
The paper boarding pass is also headed down this road. Many airlines will now let you use an electronic boarding pass sent to your cell phone or other device.
Frank in dark and cool SBA
Posted by City of Miami (Member # 2922) on :
Last week I booked a 2 zone trip with AGR. Austin to Seattle in August. The site value was over $1400 - one of the best things about AGR is being able to book late in the game without penalty.
The interesting thing was this time the confirmation says that I can pick up the ticket at any Amtrak station or Quiktrak machine. Earlier trips AGR has mailed the paper tickets to me. This seems like a significant change to me - it at least seems to make cancellation or change or plans easier.
So I am going to make this 5day 4night trip on Amtrak. Many on this forum would think I am mad. I am looking forward to it. About half a day of it will involve a transfer from 22 to 5 via Springfield and Galesburg: 2 hrs in each city + a 2 hr bus ride. I don't mind. And there will be a 9 hr layover in Sacramento from 3pm to midnight. I have a friend there who will meet me to have dinner and a long yarn so, again, I don't mind at all breaking up the trip that way. I have covered all of the track before, so I'll try to look out the other side this time!
Posted by RRRICH (Member # 1418) on :
City - I don't think you are "mad" -- have a great trip!!!!!
Posted by GIZMOS (Member # 4953) on :
quote:Originally posted by GIZMOS: I'll let you know when (if!!) I receive this last set.[/QB]
Well, it's been two weeks and I haven't yet received these AGR tickets. Can't decide if I should call and ask and risk re-opening the whole blackout days debate, or just pray that they're slow and keep waiting.
Bob
Posted by sojourner (Member # 3134) on :
COM, your trip sounds like one of mine, so how can I think you're crazy?
Re AGR, I like dealing with them. Sure, they sometimes make mistakes, but I find them pretty accommodating. And while it's true there are some blackout dates, I just avoid them. I try to avoid holiday travel in general.
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
quote:Originally posted by sojourner: COM, your trip sounds like one of mine, so how can I think you're crazy?
Re AGR, I like dealing with them. Sure, they sometimes make mistakes, but I find them pretty accommodating. And while it's true there are some blackout dates, I just avoid them. I try to avoid holiday travel in general.
I'll add that in booking my trip AGR initially cited a charge of 20,000 points but, when asked, corrected that to 15,000 points. Chicago and Atlanta are both in the central fare zone even though the most direct route between them includes travel in the east zone.