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Posted by Ocala Mike (Member # 4657) on :
 
Our new Governor, fresh from a stint as CEO of a scandal-riddled healthcare company, continues to amaze and bewilder his own party cohorts:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/os-sunrail-decision-delayed-20110311,0,4880846.story
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Today's New York Times has an insightful article regarding the downfall of Florida HSR. While to those informed of the issues relating to the project, little new ground is broken, let us bemindful that The Times is a general circulation publication:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/us/12rail.html

Brief passage:

Possibly the undoing to the HSR initiative can be summarized that it was "low hanging fruit" and vulnerable to repudiation by elected officials whose constituency represent opposition to the programs endorsed by the incumbent Administration.
 
Posted by navybanker (Member # 16430) on :
 
While virtually any investment in updated rail service is desireable, the "obvious drawbacks" cited in the Times piece are worthy of consideration. The short distance minimizes the value of increased speed, while the lack of public transportation at each end minimizes its preferability over driving. "Boondoggle" is the right word -- what is really needed as a demonstration project which would really be used, and therefore copied, is a longer link between two points with existing infrasdtructures (local public tranportation facilities) Chicago-St. Louis, Seattle-Spokane, and New Orleans-Houston come to mind - each pair being separated by not overly-developed areas which would make any necessary land acquisition very costly. A Tampa-Orlando link might help get President Obama re-elected, but it would likely be such an underused facility that its existence would seriously jeopardize the consideration of future rail projects.
 
Posted by Ocala Mike (Member # 4657) on :
 
The above posts are certainly spot on with regard to the demise of HSR in Florida, but the article I posted has to do with commuter rail, SunRail. Just wanted to show what we're up against in the Sunshine State. I plead guilty to posting this in an Amtrak group, since it's obviously about plans for a commuter line not specifically related to Amtrak.

I just hope that Gov. Scott doesn't wake up one day and realize that Amtrak trains actually still serve parts of his state; he might decide to terminate them at the Georgia border.
 
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ocala Mike:
The above posts are certainly spot on with regard to the demise of HSR in Florida, but the article I posted has to do with commuter rail, SunRail. Just wanted to show what we're up against in the Sunshine State. I plead guilty to posting this in an Amtrak group, since it's obviously about plans for a commuter line not specifically related to Amtrak.

I just hope that Gov. Scott doesn't wake up one day and realize that Amtrak trains actually still serve parts of his state; he might decide to terminate them at the Georgia border.

That would be so very Brosnan of him!
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Gotta tell you, Mr. Presley, the "architect" of that "stop at the border" train-off strategy was an attorney with the SRY, a former Naval Officer during WWII instrumental in saving victims from the USS Indianapolis, former Secretary of the Navy, and to some the "saviour of Amtrak".

Golly, wish I could think of his name....
 
Posted by Ocala Mike (Member # 4657) on :
 
Gil, that would be W. Graham Claytor, Jr. (thanks to Googling USS Indianapolis and getting the Wikipedia link).
 
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
 
GBN - Yep, I knew that answer too. Graham Claytor rose to the top by being a good soldier (well, sailor anyway) and delivering exactly what the boss asked for.... the most expedient way to trim operating losses.

It is coincidental that Claytor, once in charge at SRY, expanded the steam excursion program and preserved the Southern Crescent for nearly another decade..... albeit at the cost of sacrificing the Nancy Hanks.

I think it can be safely said that Claytor was incredibly sharp, politically savvy, and unashamed to be somewhat of a railfan.
 


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