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Posted by yukon11 (Member # 2997) on :
 
About the Bakken field boom and the new hub of railroad actilvity, Williston, ND:

http://mtstandard.com/mobile/article_d1c33f06-f294-11e2-8347-001a4bcf887a.html

I would think they could figure out how to add an extra coach car or two, to the Builder, to accommodate the increase in ridership.

Richard
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Of interest, it appears that KISN is not about to receive much in the way of funding for improvements:

http://www.naturalgasforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=17331.0

Brief passage:

Also of interest should be this New York Times column by Gail Collins, which can best be described as 'sophistated New Yorker visits the Oil Patch':

Brief Passage:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/opinion/collins-where-the-jobs-are.html

Somehow I'm willing to bet that The Times' travel desk's knowledge of Amtrak extends about as far as Acela. 'Empire Builder? what's that?'. Of further interest is where did Ms. Collins stay? It appears that the 'high end' is Holiday Inn Express and Hampton Inn, which are to me 'as low as I go'. There is no such a thing as a 'full service' hotel in town, i.e. Holiday Inn, Marriott, Hilton, Westin, however, I'm certain that will change in the foreseeable future.
 
Posted by yukon11 (Member # 2997) on :
 
I would also think, Mr. Norman, that there would be difficulty with landing and takeoffs during the harshest winter months. Northern Montana has a long winter period. When I lived there, many years ago, we had snow as late as early June and as early as late Sept.

Richard
 
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Richard, I was with the MILW '70-'81; it is a 'been there done that' to drive US12 through Montana during January.
 
Posted by palmland (Member # 4344) on :
 
How about a private enterprise solution. The oil companies pay the tab for a couple surplus commuter cars on the EB and carve out a small area for drinks and fast food. They'd be handled as a charter cars on weekends and located safely between the baggage car and transition car.

From the stories I've heard the oil workers are aptly named 'Roughnecks' - wikipedia definition; "roughneck is a slang term for a person whose occupation is hard-manual labour, typically in a dangerous working environment. The term applies across a number of industries, but is most commonly associated with oil rigs." The companies could well afford it and used as incentive to keep workers on the job (free transportation and all the beer you can drink!).
 
Posted by Vincent206 (Member # 15447) on :
 
The cost expanding the EB consist is larger than it appears at first look. The EB runs a 5 trainset rotation, so any additional car(s) on the train have to be multiplied by 5. IIRC, new cars cost about $4 million each which would require $40 million to add 2 additional cars to every EB.
 
Posted by RRCHINA (Member # 1514) on :
 
Vincent206, Businessmen, not government or Amtrak, will find a way if it is feasible. BNSF may be willing to assist if, for example, passenger cars were to be set out and picked up - not part of the Chicago to Seattle Amtrak consist, perhaps between crew change points east and west of Williston.
 
Posted by Tanner929 (Member # 3720) on :
 
I agree with Palmland. Yes the unemployment rates are down because of fracking which is I'm sure burns The Times and the only reason to go to Montana is to visit Ted Turner's Bison farm. I'm sure the roughnecks can find there way to and from the fields. By the time Amtrak gets around to hiring consultants having a study comes up with a plan that like many of their past studies is antiquated by the time implemented.
 


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