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Posted by DC (Member # 2065) on :
 
Hi,

is it possible to combine a C44 9W with a Dash 9. Do they run together in real ? - or is that not possible ?
regards from europe, DC
 


Posted by cajon (Member # 40) on :
 
In the North America, as long as 2 locos can be MUed they can run together. Therefore both of those engines can run together espescially since they are both the same locos. Just 2 different nomenclatures for same thing.
 
Posted by DC (Member # 2065) on :
 
i want to combine a athearn genesis
SD 75I with 3 athearn C44 9W - they are not the same as it seems.
i asked the wrong question before i think.
but thank you so far !

DC
 


Posted by Challenger (Member # 1298) on :
 
Any model locomotive can be run together with another model locomotive provided the folowing criteria are met.

1. Method of poweing the model is the same. I. E. a Marklin AC Electric model cant be run with an Athearn DC electic model.

2. Gear Ratios are the same. This means everything is running at the same speed at the same voltage.

3. Method of coupling on two models is the same. I. E. One cant be horn hook and the other Kadee. They both have to be one or the other.

However if using Digital Command Control only points 1 and 3 are valid as the Decoder can be congigured to match a preexisting speed curve to allow seamless operation with the remaining locomotive fleet.
 


Posted by DC (Member # 2065) on :
 
Hi,

thank you for answering my question.
the athearn genesis SD 75I is changed to AC Digital with Sound, which means it is totally fine with märklin Digital ( yes, i have an ä on my keypad )
if you look more through my website (what you actually did, otherwise you should'nt know i am using marklin) then you see i have walthers wagons with kadee couplers. now i want to buy dummys - but there are none in the athearn genesis line (why not ??).
In my mind the next similar model is the
C44 9W , dummys available. now i want to combine them. would you see this combination somewhere in real ? I am talking about the big real ones driving through your nice country...


 


Posted by cajon (Member # 40) on :
 
All North American prototype(real) locos can run together as long as they can be MUed. They can be seen in practically any combination. You should check out other web sites like trainorders.com that have pix posted. You can also do searches there for particular prototype engines to get more info & pix about them.
 
Posted by cajon (Member # 40) on :
 
All North American prototype(real) locos can run together as long as they can be MUed. They can be seen in practically any combination. You should check out other web sites like trainorders.com that have pix posted. You can also do searches there for particular prototype engines to get more info & pix about them.
 
Posted by cajon (Member # 40) on :
 
All North American prototype(real) locos can run together as long as they can be MUed. They can be seen in practically any combination. You should check out other web sites like trainorders.com that have pix posted. You can also do searches there for particular prototype engines to get more info & pix about them.
 
Posted by DC (Member # 2065) on :
 
ok, i will do that. but referring to your answer i think this combination should be fine.
what means MUed ?
 
Posted by Kairho (Member # 1567) on :
 
MUed? Has something to do with the cowcatcher?

(would also appreciate a definition...tnx)
 


Posted by Challenger (Member # 1298) on :
 
To DC:

No I did not look at your web site. However since I do not know what part of the world you were from I took the posibility into account that AC power could be a factor.

To Kairho:

MUed means Multiple United. That means multiple locomotives coupled together in such a fashion that they act as one.
 


Posted by DC (Member # 2065) on :
 
MUed: I thought it means something like that

@Challenger

take a look at the thread little more down called railamerica - and see how people in germany ( that's where i am from ) build northamerian layouts.
there is my AC layout as well. but - more people use DC, which is much more popular.
 


Posted by Kennedy Model Trains (Member # 808) on :
 
Any dummy locomotive can be used. I have seen small switchers MU'ed with SD60's, and even old F7's with more modern power. The concept is smple: If they all are capable of the speed requiered of the train, and the combination results in the horsepower needed to move the train, it is ok. A mix of manufacturers (ie: EMD, ALCo, GE, even Baldwin) is quite prototypical. The one thing I am concerned with though is the wheelsets. Are you using T-section rail? I am not familiar with the newer Marklin track, just the older stuff on a steel roadbed, but if they still use the tinplate- style rails, you will have to put wheelsets in the dummy units with deeper flanges. Also, added weight in the dummy units would help a lot.

Jared
 




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